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The "rumor" that Toyota makes unreliable cars/trucks.

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by bobwilson1977, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. Jan 29, 2009 at 1:27 PM
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    bobwilson1977

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    I'm doing a bit of ranting here today. Its about something that bothers the hell out of me on occasion. It seems that ever since Toyota became a real threat to GM and Ford, all the uber-pro-domestic car and truck guys are pretty pissed about it. So suddenly I've noticed a lot of bullshit on various forums and car review comments where all the Chevy and Ford guys basically bash Toyota

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    I'm as patriotic as the next guy. But my family has owned a lot of Toyotas. We beat the absolute hell out of these things and they run for at least 200,000, 250,000 miles, and even then they're still going strong.We have owned a few Fords and GM products. Of these, it seems like 50% of them were complete garbage. The others were just OK, but nothing to brag about.

    A lot of these guys are just pissed off because Toyota somehow went from making little rice burner cars to full size trucks, and that's not to their liking. So instead of making a rational argument, their lame defense is just to make up bullshit about how "bad" Toyota is and how they steal American jobs and so forth. Tell that to the guy assembling Camrys in KY, or the guy building Tacomas in Cali, buddy.

    Arg. Rant off. Ya'll get my drift.
     
  2. Jan 29, 2009 at 1:30 PM
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    and don't get me started on the ridgeline! I know a guy who owns one of those and he puts gel in his car, gets manicures, and uses fake tanning products. Those "trucks" really suck.
     
  3. Jan 29, 2009 at 1:30 PM
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    We know the truth...The truth that Toyota is the stongest car maker in todays poor conditions because they continue to make cars and trucks the right way...=)
     
  4. Jan 29, 2009 at 1:32 PM
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    The other thing is that I wonder if these guys who think Toyotas are crap ever work on them. I know for fact my Brother's Ranger ( which actually was a decent truck but really underpowered) was a hell of a lot harder to work on than my truck. The engine in his was just slapped in there, wires and hoses all over the place. On mine, you can tell an engineer spent time thinking about how to actually repair it and make it easier on the mechanic. THAT's the difference.
     
  5. Jan 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM
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    Eh, whatever... let them throw their money away every 4 or 5 years on a new Ford or GM truck. None of that crap will change the 13+ years of positive experiences that I've had with Toyota vehicles.
     
  6. Jan 29, 2009 at 1:35 PM
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    :rofl: your not right in the head
     
  7. Jan 29, 2009 at 1:36 PM
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    Ya. Exactly. I have had so many people tell me how they'd never buy one of those crappy Tacomas. Funny since mine is over 13 years old now and still going just fine. Meanwhile, all my friends are on truck no. 2 or 3 already.
     
  8. Jan 29, 2009 at 1:42 PM
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    I think the sales numbers speak for themselves. Toyota makes cars and trucks that people want to buy.

    The domestic manufacturers make cars and trucks that people wanted to buy 25 years ago, and still do out of habit. My dad's a perfect example. He's a financial genius, and can find ways to cut costs, get more from investments and pay less taxes it'll make your head spin......but....

    He's got a 2009 Explorer Sport Trac
    A 2005 Mustang Convertible
    And bought my mom a 2008 Escape

    Despite cost of ownership, maintenance, and replacing them every 5 years or so, he always has, and always will, drive fords.

    If nothing else, i simply think its out of habit.
     
  9. Jan 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM
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    My mom had a 96 Astro van for 12 years (got a new vehicle this summer.)

    Besides a blown head gasket, I don't remember very much that went wrong with it. At 160k there was some major problem with the engine that was gonna cost like 3-4k or something to fix.

    Considering the fact that my old civic (92) had to have a distributor and headgasket replaced before we got rid of it (165k, summer of 07 the brakes completely failed so we got rid of it.)

    Consdering the "crappy american product" lasted just as long with a little bit more problems as the "civic that will run forever" I'd say the Astro was a good purchase.

    Now my mom has a Forester and hates it, says she wants to go back to a van like the Astro.
     
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    Just smile at them, say 'yes, you're right' and been quietly content that you've got the better vehicle.

    I want to see the US car dealers do well, but my support wanes when it comes to spending 20k and deciding which car is best.
     
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    GM's are garbage. I've owned 4 different vehicles and they have all crapped out on me before 100K miles with regular maintenance.:rolleyes:
     
  12. Jan 29, 2009 at 1:49 PM
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    misery loves company man. so let them think what they want to try and make themselves feel better for wasting hella money on a piece of junk.

    i myself have never heard someone bash toyota for poor quality. i did head a coworker say "well, seeing as most cars dont really go past 100,000 miles anymore..."

    all i said was "ummmmm toyotas have been known to go 250,000k plus without any major mechanical issues, no big deal"

    thats all i gotta say about that!
     
  13. Jan 29, 2009 at 1:50 PM
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    I've watched a friend go through 4 volkswagon's in the time that I've owned 2 Toyotas. She constantly had shit break down on them, and had to dump a bunch of money into getting them repaired, yet she still insists on buying volkswagon's... Some people will just never get it. At least her husband owns a Tacoma.
     
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    Any german car designed and engineered before OBD-I is awesome. Anything after and you're asking for trouble.

    That's just my opinion though.
     
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    You obviously never had the joy of working on a 964 Porsche. :cool:

    Everyone always picks on the team in first place. Human nature.
    Don't worry, they won't adapt in time and fade into the abyss. Then we'll wax eloquently about the 'good ole chevy' in the same way we talk about Packards and Edsels with the occasional AMC Pacer thrown in for good measure. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Jan 29, 2009 at 2:13 PM
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    good point, 924/944 were a fairly unreliable pre-obd-I car.

    I'd LOVE a 930 slantnose though.
     
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