Throwout bearing again!!

Got it done. Cant say got lucky yet, but at least I got my service Tech to call the mechanic that approved my Rear Leaf TSB. He's a cool dude. Came out to my truck which was chirping all through the day. Then he and I listen and WTF it had stopped while ideling. Well he got under the truck & told me to engage the clutch a couple times, behold!!! it came back. He was definately concerned with it. He personally went to my service tech and scheduled my appointment. Said he will inspect the trans fluid for any fragments, so to rule out any tranny damage. And will then inspect the bell housing.

Gunna print out the write up that SnoBoarder did. Told Tech about it and he agreed it might be helpful being my truck is their first with T/O bearing issue.

Saving P. Bauer's Documents for last result. But doubt will be an issue.

Hope it gets fixed. Good luck with your Dealership.

Maybe this will become a TSB in the near future, and save lots of Tacoma owners the pain.

 

LOL!!! I would of lost it. He said quote: "you talking about that metal on metal sound." End quote.

Yeah I really cant see the vescocity of H2O releaving the friction of metals

 

good to hear this is being fixed, and possibly a tsb being released. Im seriously considering buying a new truck in the next few years, and I want to know they will take care of this problem if it occurs

 

It's so good to hear that more cases of this failure are being taken care of by Toyota fairly and without arguement. My 05 is now rusting in peace in a junk yard somewhere but I can't help but wonder how long my 07 is going to last and if I'm going to start it up one day and here that awful chirp.

 

The Bearing was replaced. Dropped off truck first thing this morning, done by 3pm. The write up says: Poor machining of release bearing causing abnormal noise in transmission. They replaced clutch bearing assembly, and even exhaust gaskets. Guess they had to remove URD Y-pipe to drop trans

Rick Hedricks employees are Straight... No questions asked, work performed as requested.

Shifting is alot more smooth, not sure if they changed trans fluid, or added, but it's definately smoother. Gunna have to let into it a bit, and see if the chirp comes back, but looks like I can start focusing on mods, and not repairs for now.

Thanks guys, I will repost if shit comes back, just so we can have a track record with above said issue.

Laters...

 

Still back to a steel release bearing damaging an aluminum pilot shaft. I'd like to know what the designer of the RA60 and RA61 series was thinking. The Tacoma 5 speed manual is steel RB on a steel and replaceable PS, a time tested rock solid design.

My RB cracked, yours didn't. Mine was an 05, yours an 08, I'm North East, your South West. It seems pretty much hit or miss to me and that it can happen to anyone. I've heard from other sources that some dealerships are replacing at least 1 Tacoma transmission per month for this issue.

 

I just got back from Mossy Toyota here in San Diego from my appointment for them to inspect my throwout bearing issue. They say that the noise I hear is normal? Question I have is that mine does not actually squeak but does have a slight rotating grinding like noise with the clutch pedal released, then goes away when pressed in. It has been getting louder over time. Did any of yours have this sound before the squeak?

Thanks.

 

Mine was more of a chirping noise. Kind of metal on metal. You might want to have their master mechanic check it. It's not normal, and will only get worse over time.

 

There is a very distinct and audible noise difference on the 6 speed when you engage the clutch and release the clutch while in Neutral because the input shaft will spin when you release the clutch. That is completely normal. All Dealerships get calls about it. I listen to it every single day. If you compare it to a new truck and your sound is very different, than they need to take a more detailed look.

The diagnosis for a Release Bearing/Pilot Shaft chirp or squeal is in my post#23. It takes 5 minutes or less. The mechanic can see it wobble, hear the chirp or squeal, and steady the wobble by pushing the slave cylinder shaft while its up on the lift, check out my pics. What can't be confirmed is damage to the aluminum pilot shaft, that requires dropping the transmission for inspection and measurements.

 

I am having this same issue on my 05. So, what did all this cost? I'm out of warranty as of a couple of months ago and money is very tight right now.

 

It's not cheap. I bought all my parts from toyotaworld.com in Texas, at about 35% off list plus a day or more of labor and I was well over $1600 if I recall. You definately want to PM the guys in this thread that were out of warranty, or maybe they'll chime in, so you can find out what their exact approach was with the dealer. I know they printed out my pics and descriptions but how they handled it exactly may make all the difference. As always, be nice, courteous, humble, and no attitude.

 

well taking my truck in on friday to get it looked at for this problem... crossing my fingers i dont run into to much money :/

 

Mine started doing the same too recently...a local dealership says its covered for 5 years/60,000 miles? Sound right?

 

If this post is still alive I need help ASAP. My dealer has misdiagnosed and is going to do a shady repair. Can someone who has had a dealer correctly diagnosed and repaired this send me an invoice or contact info for your dealer and a repair order number?

I am at 56k and since the bell housing should be a non wear item I think this qualifies for power train warranty repair.

Please send anything you can to kmalarik@hotmail.com
or even phone me at 205 276 6219

I plan to have this truck a long time and don't want to live with the chirp because of Toyota ducking a warranty claim!

Thanks guys.
Keith

 

I still watch the thread but I don't have much to offer other than my pics and descriptions of the components involved and the diagnosis. Any tech that reads my posts should ramp up to speed within minutes on the issue. If my release bearing wasn't cracked, I wouldn't have needed a single part other than the Bell Housing but I was over 80K miles. If I would have fought harder I might have had better luck.

If they meausure the Pilot Shaft and it is worn, you have a good case. If they measure it and it is fine and the RB just cracked, they consider that a wearable item covered only under the 36K warranty, as far as I know.

PM the other guys and see if they can help you out. And I agree 100%, that pilot shaft should be steel and not wear so quickly. It should mirror the 5-speed design on the 4 cyl trucks, period, there's no possible arguement, the design is flawed and it will suffer with premature failures. It really sucks for any of us past the 60K mark or anyone buying a used one with higher mileage.

The only way around the inevitable wear and tear on that component, IMHO, is to figure out a way to grease the shaft on a maintenance interval, without dropping the transmission.

 

What exactly do you mean by shady repair, and what was their diagnosis?

I had mine done using all the examples from this thread, and the sound produced in front the master tech. They replaced bearing, greased it, and the problem has been good past 3mos.. not saying it wont come back, but the write up said replaced bearing and nothing about pilot shaft. soo, the bearing was covered under waranty.

 

My chirp came back within days of the standard repair (RB, clutch disk, PP) so we knew we had to look at that shaft more closely the second time around. If you made it 3 months Rox, it sounds like you had no additional wear on the Pilot Shaft, and that's a very possible outcome for Keith too. Plus you weren't charged. That might be the paperwork Keith needs. I presumed Keith was being denied warranty and being charged for the standard repair when he said they were ducking a warranty claim.

I'm anxious to hear what happens or has happened with these new cases. Keep us updated.

 

hey man, I will try to get the repair on digits by tonight...

Good point, Ill help out keith withh that Doc.

 

Mine Would Not Make A Single Noise In Front Of Dealer.. But Did It The Rest Of The Night After I Picked It Up. Does Anyone Know How I Can Make It Do It Next Time I Take It In?

 

All.
I drafted an email to my local service manager containing several of your invoices and various bits of the inspection criteria identified in this thread.

My dealer has contacted Toyota's Tech line and they have been directed to pull the mission and do further analysis. I assume this means they have a specification and judgment criteria to verify the condition of the release bearing shaft.

I will update Monday when I hear more.

Thank you all for your support!
Keith