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"Thud" when I stop, gear shift moves too!

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by saunagangsta, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. Sep 7, 2008 at 3:28 PM
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    saunagangsta

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    I got this little silent thud upon complete stopping and then another one after I hit the gas again. The darn gear shifter seems to be moving more than it shoud, if at all, when I torque the engine and come to a stop. WTF:confused: Engine & tranny mounts look good, u-joints are fine. Is my auto-trans not down shifting into 1st smoothly or wha'? Fluids are sound. Anybody got the DL on this one?
     
  2. Sep 7, 2008 at 3:36 PM
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    chris4x4

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    Welcome to Tacoma World!
    What you are experiencing is "Axel Wrap". Because Toyota uses longer rear leaf springs at a softer spring rate for ride quality and off raod capability, this is a common issue. Only way to fix it is with a new spring pack, or an AAL. Some people have fixed the problem by greaseing the drive shaft slip joint. :)
     
  3. Sep 7, 2008 at 3:36 PM
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    concrete jedi

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    It's still sounds like a mount issue, the torque is moving the whole Engine & transmission. The mounts might look good but something is not right. Unless now that I think... something internal in the tranny is not tight which is allowing the torque to transfer through the shifter. :frusty:
     
  4. Sep 7, 2008 at 3:39 PM
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    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    True. I didnt think about the shifter moveing. As long as its not moveing more than 1.5" it shouldnt be the mounts.
    Saunagangsta, How much is the shifter moveing?
     
  5. Sep 7, 2008 at 4:04 PM
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    saunagangsta

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    nowhere near an inch and a half, its just visible to nakedness.
     
  6. Sep 7, 2008 at 4:05 PM
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    chris4x4

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    Then Im thinking its just axel wrap. :)
     
  7. Sep 7, 2008 at 4:11 PM
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    Ridgerunner

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    Im with Chris-my '01 shifter moves around and has done so since new....it is a non-issue:)
     
  8. Sep 7, 2008 at 4:15 PM
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    AAL, whats that? I just replaced my 99 taco for this one due to the rusty frame problem. so I wanna keep her purrty, shes a thing a beauty so gimme the angle for the dangle. Spring pack suggestions??
     
  9. Sep 7, 2008 at 4:22 PM
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    Its "add a leaf"
     
  10. Sep 7, 2008 at 8:02 PM
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    tacomaman06

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    i have the same problem with the axle wrap on my 04 dc. the rear springs are flat and worn out, so im going to remedy this problem by getting some wheelers rear leaf packs from wheelers offroad. here is a link if you want to check out some of the stuff they have.....awesome company:)

    http://wheelersoffroad.com/
     
  11. Sep 7, 2008 at 8:19 PM
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    nighthawk87

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    I think I have this same issue. It feels like the truck doesn have a super smooth final stop like it should right?

    Will the TSB on the rear leafs work to fix the problem maybe?
     
  12. Sep 7, 2008 at 8:31 PM
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    i ahd a little axle wrap on my 06, pre tsb. after the tsb, the truck rode and handled alot better, and i had no more axle wrap, so im gonna say yes........the new spring pack should take care of it.
     
  13. Sep 13, 2008 at 8:15 AM
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    I have the same issue on my 05 DC 4x4 auto. Took to 2 different dealers and said same thing. A past thread someone was able to fix with a lift so I'm waiting for the 2.5 or 3 incher. A neighbor of mine had the same thing in his 03 nission 4 door 4x4 Frontier so maybe it's a Japanese thing.
     
  14. Oct 4, 2008 at 10:37 AM
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    anyone fix this problem?
     
  15. Oct 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM
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    i installed my new suspension on my 04 last weekend, and problem solved, not to mention, the ride is night and day difference now!!
     
  16. Oct 9, 2008 at 11:00 AM
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    So here goes, ... Look and you shall find. Chris4x4 and Tacomaman06 pointed me in the right direction. I posted a question B-4 I used the search option here on TW. Now I know to search this awsome Forum for information. Axle Wrap is caused by this photo on my 1999 4x4. The springs are gone, worn slap out as Tacomaman06 would say. Have a look and see, they actually bend in the WRONG Direction. I don't have the ca$h to do a complete lift at the moment, and I just bought new tires, so I will get the wheelers 4 leaf to fix this problem.

    New Leaf Springs......$430.00
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    T.W. and friends helping me out on this one......Priceless






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  18. Dec 19, 2008 at 4:16 PM
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    My truck did the same thing. It hasn't done it since I installed the AAL.
     
  19. Dec 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM
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    chris4x4

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    Your springs look about normal. Tacomas have a "reverse arch" to their rear leaves, for better off road flex. The side effext is axel wrap. Fixed with an AAL, or replacement leaf packs. You will know when your springs are shot, as the ride will become harsh.
    +1
     
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