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TIRE Help - What's The Best Aggressive AT C Load Range 265/75/16?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by The Real Moondog, Mar 27, 2017.

  1. Jul 10, 2017 at 9:42 PM
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    I've heard duratracs are not fully siped. Is this true?
     
  2. Jul 10, 2017 at 10:10 PM
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    Awesome stuff here! Thanks! So I'm getting less sidewall it seems. I would prefer to stay with the 16s but at this point it looks like 17s are the way to go. Thanks for this link.
     
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    I sold my last set that still had lots of siping left at around 45%. I would say, by the time you're at the end of the siping, you should be looking for new tires anyway. but I can't honestly tell you how deep the siping goes.
     
  4. Jul 10, 2017 at 10:17 PM
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    Agreed. Put these on last week after multiple flats in the stock goodyears. Really liking these so far! Went to a load rating C and didn't notice much difference.
     
  5. Jul 11, 2017 at 4:51 AM
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    I'm assuming you swapped tires because you wanted to go a little taller, but wondering why would these prevent flats better than the OEM Goodyears? They look very similar.
     
  6. Jul 11, 2017 at 5:03 AM
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    If you want something a little more aggressive than an aggresive AT, check out Dick Cepek Extreme Country. load E is 48 Lbs, vs the duratrac 265/75/16 load C is 45 Lbs. I ran duratracs in 265/75/16 load C for +/-40K, (plenty of life left, sold to a local member) great tires, balance happy though. switched to the DC EC's, in 255/85/16. great tires, they are marketed as a mud tire for the weekend warrior. great road manners for a mild mud tire. great offroad performance as well

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...7853!&ef_id=U6ByEwAABZIZeEfm:20170711115637:s

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...eModel=Wrangler+DuraTrac&partnum=675QR6WDTOWL
     
  7. Jul 11, 2017 at 8:53 AM
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    This is very helpful and maybe the lightest aggressive tire I have seen in an E load range. How quiet are they compared to the Duratracs?
     
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    not bad at all. similar to the DTs :thumbsup:
     
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    If you are even still considering a duratrac in load range C, do yourself a huge favor and take a look at one off the rim first (before you waste your money). I didn't. And lost three of them in a single week on a hunt. Sidewalls are stupid thin, as I discovered once I had them off the rims. Lost two sidewalls to rocks, and a third to a pencil sized wet stick that went right through the sidewall. Those were 3 of only 4 flats I've had in the last 15 years of off roading in AZ rocks. And they all came within days of each other.

    Just my opinion, but duratracs are the crappiest "off road" tire made. Road noise really increased once they got some miles on them, and can't take anything resembling off road abuse. I know...I know, a lot of guys have them and are happy with them. But there are also a lot of guys who have had the same sidewall issues as well. More so than any other commonly used off road tire I've heard of.

    I didn't even take the chance on load range E duratracs after that. Went with Goodyear MTR's after that on the old Gen 1 Tacoma, and am running ST Maxx on the new one. Loved the MTR's, but wanted something a little less aggressive and noisy on the 3rd gen since it is now a daily driver.
     
  10. Jul 11, 2017 at 9:49 AM
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    Again, thank you for the input. Honestly, trying to find the right tire has been dizzying at best. I'm on the fence about going up To a 17 for more options. I have always kept my vehicles stock and if anything only upsize my tires. There are just not a lot of good choices out there for 265/75/16. I don't think I need an E rated tire at all and wonder how much worse he ride will be on them. I have always gotten away with running SL tires but the tire game is changing. In order to get some of these quiet OEM tires we are seeing some stupid soft tires. Soft and off-road don't generally mesh well. I guess I would consider an E rated tire if I found one that wouldn't kill my mileage and ride. That Dick Cepek Extreme Country tire is a very light tire for an E rated tire.
     
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    I'm leaning heavy toward toyo at2's or grabber at2's now. After reading about the physics of tire weight when spinning I think 255/85s are just too much for my little taco. Thoughts on these two? I know the grabber isn't c load but it's light-ish.

    Dizzying is a good word for this..
     
  12. Jul 11, 2017 at 6:29 PM
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    Both are good tires. Be sure and check the weight on that Grabber before jumping on it. Toyo makes good tires and they stand behind them. I have read about some balance issues with them but you will find that with almost any tire not named Michelin. I was shocked to see that Dick Cepek Extreme Country only weigh 48 pounds but that's a MT as opposed to AT.
     
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    I looked at the EC and I couldn't find anyone saying it was very safe in the snow and ice. Wonder how they saved that weight..
     
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    It seems to be an interesting story. If I read a review on it correctly, it appears that even though it is an E rated tire it only has a 2? ply sidewall. That would be your weight savings. The tire is rated very well and is supposed to be as quiet as it gets for having that mud tread.

    http://www.offroadxtreme.com/engine-tech/wheels-tires/dick-cepek-extreme-country-tire-review/
    https://www.dickcepek.com/tires/extreme-country/
     
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    You think the toyos can survive Montana winters? 4wd.com has a sale on them right now where they pay your sales tax.
     
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    I have run Toyos several times over the years and have had no issues. For me I'm looking even more aggressive than what they are BUT do know that in person these tires are more aggressive than they appear. I'd get the LT over the standard tire for sure.
     
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    Definetly thinking Lt load C. St Maxx are beautiful but oh well. Any other better deals to be had than the 4wd.com?
     
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    Load C is the way to go. Just Google what you want and price check like crazy. Try tiresize.com because it lets you check multiple places at one time and then your usual discounttiredirect.com to see what they will do.
     

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