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Toyota Oil Filter (Made in Thailand) vs. the competition........

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by chris4x4, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. Feb 16, 2013 at 4:34 PM
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    Rich91710

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    That could be good for Fram, or bad for Champion.

    Champion moved to the Ecore design around 2004 or 2005, same time Bosch bought Purolator.
    With that move, Bosch pulled their production from Champion and moved it to the Purolator facilities, and retained marketing rights to the Purolator name.

    BUT... the Mobil-1 and K&N filters remained Champion's "premium" product and did not move to the Ecore design.
    I can't imagine that Mobil-1, K&N, and especially TRD, are going to accept standard Fram production design. Fram will likely retain the premium design, and add it to one of the premium Fram branded filters, and move their traditional production to the Ecore production.
    They likely bought Champion to get the Ecore patents, being similar to their own design, yet even CHEAPER through the use of the nylon cage core rather than a steel tube core.
     
  2. Feb 16, 2013 at 4:48 PM
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    my 2013 Tacoma came with a 90915 20004 oil filter . oem
    Can i use a 90915 YZZD3 ? oem

    V6
     
  3. Feb 16, 2013 at 4:55 PM
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    Yes
     
  4. Feb 16, 2013 at 5:04 PM
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    Thank you
     
  5. Feb 17, 2013 at 4:10 AM
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    Got mine for $8 on dealer discount, but looked familiar, so not really surprised! Now add a Fram purchase of Champion, so back to the stock filter! J
     
  6. Feb 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM
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    Fram would be stupid to fuck with the Mobil-1/K&N design.
    Champion didn't make any major changes to the design when they went to the Ecore (they did move the bypass valve).
    If Fram changed the design, they'd lose the Mobil-1 and K&N contracts.
     
  7. Mar 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM
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    I'm putting one of these Magnafilters inline with my OE Toyota filter. Opinions? IMO for an old motor its probably overkill, but on a brand new car/engine, rebuilt motor or one with new parts (cams, bearings etc) I would think it helps a lot. Does the OP want my old unit once I'm done with it to cut into it?

    Pic of it testing the fitment to my filter-

    2013-02-27 10.15.41.jpg
     
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  8. Mar 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM
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    I've never felt those offer any more protection on an aluminum engine .
     
  9. Mar 4, 2013 at 8:07 PM
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    There are still steel wear surfaces, but the filter itself catches anything large enough to damage the bearings.

    Magnetic oil drain plugs are misleading. Yes, they do show residue... but that is from the pan... before the oil passes through the filter.

    UOA tells how much iron is in the used oil and not trapped by the filter.
     
  10. Mar 16, 2013 at 11:07 AM
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    As a mechanic myself, along with my other mechanic friends, we have been referring to Fram filters as "the orange can of death" for years. Thanks for the pictures and info, way to spread the word.
     
  11. Mar 18, 2013 at 4:03 PM
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    Well just got 10q from AA of Pennzoil Platinum and 2 k&n filters for $44 after $20 rebate that deal is still on at Advanced Auto. I never used k&n oil filters lets hope they perform as advertised.
     
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    If you have the 2.7L engine you will like the K&N Filter. The filter uses a 1" socket to install and remove.
     
  13. Mar 18, 2013 at 7:41 PM
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    Oh man now I have to stop buying Mobil filters. Will have to switch to Bosch for filters
     
  14. Mar 18, 2013 at 8:34 PM
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    Fixed that for you.

    Never use any kind of tool to install a filter without using a torque wrench.
    Even my wimpy hand can get 3/4 turn on a filter.
     
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    What is the recommended torque setting Rich?

    Seems easy enough to do.
     
  16. Mar 19, 2013 at 7:48 AM
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    Bingo.

    Someone posted the spec from Ford a few days ago. It's not much, but all I've ever read from Toyota is 1/2 to 1 turn beyond gasket contact.
     
  18. Mar 21, 2013 at 11:48 AM
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    I go with 1/2 turn. I've had my share of taking off stuck filters including my own and the oil changes I do for friends. Not fun... Especially in an old Honda CRV where the filter is tucked up above the CV axle...
     
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    regarding the magnetic drain plug comment....

    if it catches metal filings in the pan vs the filter.... good enough.
    it's better to capture the filings wherever they are.... and restrict filings from flowing/recirculating with the oil....

    that being said,
    I cannibalized a defective computers hard drive, magnet
    (you won't believe just how powerful/strong those little magnets are, until you actually put one in your hand)

    I keep a hard drive magnet stuck to the top of my oil filter.... always....
     
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    Hard drive magnets are THE SHIT. Don't make the mistake of putting your fingers between two loose ones!
    I have one mounted on: each diff plug, trans plug, transfer case plug, oil plug, oil filter, and radiator cap. Like Jeff says: if it catches even a little bit of errant metal (which it does, if you've ever inspected a magnetized plug), then why not do it??
     
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