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Toyota Oil Filter (Made in Thailand) vs. the competition........

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by chris4x4, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. Jul 18, 2013 at 6:55 AM
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    The filter listed for the tacoma (ea15k51) is rated for 15k/ 1 year. Where are you getting that number?
     
  2. Jul 18, 2013 at 9:12 PM
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    I was an Amsoil dealer in 2005-2007 during the early years of the EAO filter.
     
  3. Jul 18, 2013 at 9:43 PM
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    I wonder what filter is in my Taco right now... lol, yet another reason I need quality time with her to learn all the ins and outs. If it's anything other than the Toyota filter I'll be switching to that from now on! Great info.
     
  4. Jul 29, 2013 at 7:28 AM
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    Merely looking at a filter only gives part of the story. The quality testing results from testing done at actual labs is probably better for making an educated decision on what's what.

    Personally, I just use factory oil filters with for whatever vehicle I own, because those generally have ended up being the better ones for your vehicle. Not to mention the filter size, media, and so forth has been taken into consideration with the recommended change intervals for that engine. Has been the case with every brand almost. Toyota guys say to buy Toyota filters. Subaru guys say to buy the Subaru filters, and Honda for Honda, and so forth. And on every forum there's that one guy who takes apart all the filters to show everyone the "quality" differences.

    Honestly...if any of the filters were dangerous to your vehicle on the whole, they wouldn't pass the testing and wouldn't be sold. People wouldn't be buying them and cars wouldn't be lasting 100k and beyond with them.
     
  5. Aug 14, 2013 at 6:16 PM
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    Thanks for this Chris, I was using M1 filters until I came across this.

    Quick question I didn't find an answer to in a quick search. I use Mobil 1 oil, and change my oil and rotate my tires every 5,000 miles.

    I feel the oil is fine for 5k, but is the filter? Should I change the filter at a closer interval, say 2.5k? Thoughts or suggestions?

    Thanks!
     
  6. Aug 14, 2013 at 6:31 PM
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    The filter is fine for a 5k interval.
     
  7. Aug 14, 2013 at 8:00 PM
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    Great, thanks Chris!
     
  8. Aug 21, 2013 at 6:42 AM
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    Anyone have a link for the cheapest place to get these filters?
    One of TW vendors (camelback toyota) has a great price (with shipping about $4.70 a piece), but when you go to check out they add a $3 handling charge.
    Im not going to get hit at the final point of sale with an additional $3. Thx
     
  9. Aug 21, 2013 at 8:16 PM
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    There's an eBay vendor that charges $40 for a box of 10 shipped.
    Titus-Will is $88 shipped for 20 filters. The more you buy, the less the shipping and handling charges impact the cost.

    If you only want to buy one or two, your local dealership is going to be the most economical. If he tells you that it's $5 or $6, remind him that you can get them online for just under $4, but you prefer to give him your business.
     
  10. Aug 25, 2013 at 8:44 PM
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    nice write up! browsed through the posts.. but not all, did you happen to compare the stock toyota vs the TRD filter? i just bought one so i am wondering after seeing this.
     
  11. Aug 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM
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    TRD filter is identical to the K&N/Mobil-1 filter.
     
  12. Sep 1, 2013 at 5:42 AM
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    Had a good laugh at Napa the other day. The same Napa Gold 1348 for my 2.7 fits my Sears Craftsman 20 hp riding lawn mower. Ohh,, the sinhumanity! :eek:
     
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  13. Sep 5, 2013 at 1:51 AM
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    im tired of reading, been at work for 18 hours. a great trick i use for stubborn filters is i take a phillips screwdriver and punch it through the filter.. now you have a nice craftsman or snapon or mac or walmart stanley handle to turn even the tightest filter off :)

    i have always used the OEM filter, my gramps always said to and i figured it made sense. thanks for the OP and all the work

    i have another idea, get a bilge pump and fab up a tank with a filter mount and in a controlled environment test flow over a set time with some cheapo oil and play sand you can measure how much it actually holds before it gives up the ghost. I would be glad to do it but i cant afford a shit ton of filters.

    if someone had an extra engine stand i have a 22r block i can pull the rods and pistons out of and throw a compressor motor from an air compresser hanging out in my back yard (if it still works) on it to drive the crank and oil pump.. fill it up with 4 qaurts of oil install said filter add some sample dirt with some sort of measuring device over a period of time and find out when it stops pumping cleaned oil..

    i think it sounds pretty straight forward let me know what you guys think.

    i ran the k&n filter on my civic engines

    i ran the wix on my supercharged corolla once (ex wife drove it 500 miles) when it got home it was low on oil by 2 qaurts and knocking. it sat for about 6 months while i was in iraq and she was supposed to check the oil before the trip, i ran amsoil at the time and the wix was the "best" filter the parts store had while i was home, toyota was closed. im sure it was low to start with, and since i had to tear the engine open anyway i turned off the bypass and ran 11 psi untill she popped :) went a long way actually. im not blaming the filter, i blame the ex.

    i have worked on many, many old toyotas and the worst shape ones always had stp and fram filters. just throwing it out there.
     
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    i used to buy my 22r filters with a discount back home for about $4

    the dealer sold out, they jacked the prices.. last time i was in they wanted 8.99..... i dug around untill i found a new one in the garage and im going to order them offline
     
  15. Sep 12, 2013 at 3:40 PM
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    What if u can get 90915 20004 filters? Use them? Better??
     
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    Great write up! Lots of good info in there!....I have a friend who own's a truck dealership and has been a top mechanic for probably 25 years. A while back I bought a new maxima which I asked him which filter I should use for oil changes and he said go with the stock filter. So that's what I've done and have had no problems, and from what you found out it looks like the stock one is the best.....
     
  17. Sep 12, 2013 at 11:01 PM
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    Not IMHO.
    They are a completely different design, and there has been a lot of speculation that they were designed only for the break-in period.
    One tech claimed that they did not have a bypass valve.
     
  18. Oct 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM
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    There's a bypass valve:

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    The bypass valve's spring is the 4-prong piece in this photo (leftmost filter):

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Oct 8, 2013 at 4:58 PM
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    Wow nice job!!! Thanks!! I will stick with the factory filters!!!
     
  20. Oct 13, 2013 at 12:17 AM
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    Has anyone tried the Purolator PureOne PL20195 (believe its a longer version of the PL10241)
     
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