Toyota Owners are being asked about new engine possibilities

Lexus is rumored to be putting a turbo 4 in the new small SUV. Could be used in the Tacoma as well.

 

Bingo.

Diesel is a product of the refining process.... but when you have a barrel of crude oil and refine it, you don't get to make up your mind that you are going to get 10 gallons of gas, 10 gallons of Diesel, 10 gallons of kerosene, and 5 gallons of motor oil.

You ARE going to get 5 gallons of motor oil, 25 gallons of Diesel/heating oil/kerosene/jet fuel, and 15 gallons of gasoline (numbers 100% made up, I have no clue of the ratio)

Europe and other countries, ESPECIALLY developing and 3rd world nations, are by far mostly Diesel. Here, the Mercedes Diesel was viewed as the luxury car, and the 190 gas burner was the little POS.
In Europe, and prior to the 80s, the gasoline Merc's were the luxury cars... oil burners were the cheap models and in service as cabs.

So countries that are primarily Diesel consumers end up with a large surplus of gasoline, while countries such as the US that are primarily gasoline have a surplus of Diesel.

Interesting tid-bit... it was somewhere around 2007 that Union Pacific surpassed the US Navy as the world's largest single user of Diesel.
While part of that was due to increase in UP business, most of it was actually the reduction in demand for Diesel from the US fleet moving to nuclear power.


BTW: Thank you North Dakota
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101190132

 

Pretty close.

 

The 22R-TE was available in 1986 and 87...the 3.0 V6 took its place in 1988. I had an 86 turbo 5 speed...was very peppy for the time.

My choice would be a updated V6 for what I use it for. Just build it to last and give me my damn TC lever back(it is simple and just looks cool). still remember trying to shift out of 4WD last year in snow...I had to be...
stopped
with parking brake on
in neutral
foot on brake
stereo set to FM 98.7 volume at 32
wife gently massaging the transfer case to get it to shift out of 4WD!!

I would entertain the idea of a diesel, but it would have to be only 2k more and a min of 5 MPGs better.

 

Toyota hydrogen fuel cell car slated for sale in North America in 2016

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/toyota-displays-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car-at-tokyo-motor-show-1.2433862

 

HFC would be great if it can be made to function interchangeably (or as easy I guess) with a conventional gas powered vehicle. While the ECO benefits are significant, the investment required to do so is huge. HFC would also remove dependency of a finite and controversial fuel supply. Of course enough people will need to care enough to pay the premium to make such a product viable. I'm willing to bet, it won't/cant have reasonable market share even within 20 years.

AND...

 

Yes and no.

HFC can be looked at similarly to pure electric.
Literally, pure electric with a 5 minute recharge time.

To an even greater degree than ethanol, hydrogen requires more energy to make than it delivers. While hydrogen is the most plentiful element in the universe, unfortunately, it is extremely rare to be found on Earth because it it so highly reactive. 99.999999% of the hydrogen on the planet is bound to oxygen in water, water vapor, and other compounds.

Hydrogen is not an energy source. Like a battery, hydrogen is an energy transport media.
In a nutshell... it takes 100,000 kilowatts of energy to produce enough hydrogen to provide 25,000 kilowatts of power to the drive wheels.
By comparison, a purely electric vehicle is about 90% efficient. "Gas stations" that bank charged batteries, much like the Rhino and Lava propane tank exchange business model, is a far, far more efficient use of energy while providing an acceptable "recharge time"
The problem with that is the potential for fraud is extremely high.

What HFC (and batteries) do allow us to do is to select the source of the power required for production, and for a "dirty" source, it allows us to control the location of the pollution, such as a 100ft tall smoke stack in the middle of the desert, rather than downtown LA.

 

looks like GM has been listening to Tacoma owners as well...http://www.netcarshow.com/chevrolet/2015-colorado/

 

Good link. I was on another looking earlier. I found it interesting the Chevy will be built in the states and the GMC will be built in Thailand. So guess we'll have to wait and see just exactly what will happen. Maybe it's me but it just seems like American Labor is not on point in the minute detail in building a vehicle. But the Asians seem to be a lot better at the mundane repetitive task. God knows I'd hate to do the same thing over and over, day after day. Also of interest is the diesel won't be out until 2016. I guess Toyota has its work cut out for them.

 

Source, please? What are you calling "cleaner"? (CO2, NOx, particulates)

 

The diesels have to meet the same emission requirements as the gas engine bottom line they use less fuel, diesel or other wise so per mile their emissions are less than the gas engine. That is just one point there are many other factors just do a search and judge for your self.

 

Toyota should offer 3 options:
1. 4 cylinder direct injected gas
2. 4 cylinder direct injected gas with turbocharger or supercharger
3. 4 cylinder direct injected diesel with turbocharger

Drop the v6

 

I agree with this!

 

When someone finally breaks down and builds a diesel hybrid, that will be an awakening.

Personally I doubt it will happen because it will be cost prohibitive. Diesel engines cost a little more to build, and so do hybrids. The cost together would put the car/truck out of the price point with it's competators.

Toyota has the hybrid RWD application in the Lexus GS and LS which would be wicked cool in a truck. Not sure if it would like towing though.

 

There already are diesel / electric hybrids , Hino uses one in their newer trucks

 

Been in common use ever since the death bell sounded for the steam engine

 

Lol , touché

I meant in automobiles

 

Ahhh yes finally something I can remember....they were darn good cars those steam engines never broke down....LMAO

 

That is faulty logic at best. They all meet the same standards, yes, but which bests the standards by the most? Considering that diesels struggle to meet NOx and particulate standards, it is safe to say that gasoline is better on those. Diesel does emit fewer CO, CO2, etc because that is directly related to fuel economy and diesel usually has better mileage than has. If diesels were so much cleaner they would easily meet emission standards in the US without requiring expensive and problematic exhaust scrubbing systems. Flat out saying that diesel is cleaner than gas is not correct.

 

LOL!!I have thought the same thing..