Toyota Refuses To Replace My Frame

Markcal · Dec 15, 2018

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I absolutely agree with everything that video shows about Ziebart. It's a perfect scam. They charge you $800.00 just to undercoat (no inner body panel protection), but say you get "free annual re-sprays." As the video shows, those re-sprays just cover up the fact (and evidence) that the product really doesn't do what it's supposed to. So although your vehicle - without careful inspection on a lift - looks great, but underneath it's a ticking time bomb. And as for the "free" part, hell, you paid for all of the re-sprays up front.

The other problem with Ziebart is the people that sell it. They say the annual re-sprays are "free," but every time you go in for one, you have to endure an arm twisting by their sales people who really press you to buy even more products from them. I've gotten to the point were I refuse to sit down with anyone. It's that bad.

Last year I got into an interesting conversation with a sales representative at Ziebart when I took my truck in for it's third re-spray. I asked him if their undercoating stopped / prevented rust. He said it did. Then I asked why they were so insistent on coating my truck when it was new if that was true. He replied that the product works best when there is no rust present. This indeed makes sense and my truck was two days old when they originally did it. But then I showed him where rust had started on several areas of my frame for a variety of reasons. I asked if their product would neutralize that rust and prevent it from spreading. It was then that the mumbling and back pedaling began. Yea, we're all done here.

Although I'm not the least bit thrilled with the Ziebart product and will never get it applied to another vehicle, I can't say for sure if it's extended or shortened the life of my Tacoma. I live in an area that uses lots of road salt and not doing anything just isn't an option. I will most likely go with Krown next time around.

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Yes, thanks for sharing something that must be personally difficult, I hope your posting will help keep a fellow TW member from having to go through what you have. I'm a skeptic and even though I like the South Main Auto YouTube channel, I still questioned if what he was saying was the truth. Too bad everyone that has had problems with this undercoating couldn't form a group and put this company out of business for good or get reimbursed for losses.

ToyotaRacingDev · Dec 15, 2018

Too Stroked said: ↑

I absolutely agree with everything that video shows about Ziebart. It's a perfect scam. They charge you $800.00 just to undercoat (no inner body panel protection), but say you get "free annual re-sprays." As the video shows, those re-sprays just cover up the fact (and evidence) that the product really doesn't do what it's supposed to. So although your vehicle - without careful inspection on a lift - looks great, but underneath it's a ticking time bomb. And as for the "free" part, hell, you paid for all of the re-sprays up front.

The other problem with Ziebart is the people that sell it. They say the annual re-sprays are "free," but every time you go in for one, you have to endure an arm twisting by their sales people who really press you to buy even more products from them. I've gotten to the point were I refuse to sit down with anyone. It's that bad.

Last year I got into an interesting conversation with a sales representative at Ziebart when I took my truck in for it's third re-spray. I asked him if their undercoating stopped / prevented rust. He said it did. Then I asked why they were so insistent on coating my truck when it was new if that was true. He replied that the product works best when there is no rust present. This indeed makes sense and my truck was two days old when they originally did it. But then I showed him where rust had started on several areas of my frame for a variety of reasons. I asked if their product would neutralize that rust and prevent it from spreading. It was then that the mumbling and back pedaling began. Yea, we're all done here.

Although I'm not the least bit thrilled with the Ziebart product and will never get it applied to another vehicle, I can't say for sure if it's extended or shortened the life of my Tacoma. I live in an area that uses lots of road salt and not doing anything just isn't an option. I will most likely go with Krown next time around.

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What scares me is that when Toyota does their “undercoat” it’s exactly the same. It’s a black sticky asphalty material that has the same properties

Markcal · Dec 15, 2018

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What scares me is that when Toyota does their “undercoat” it’s exactly the same. It’s a black sticky asphalty material that has the same properties
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I don't know why Fluid Film or Krown doesn't team up with Toyota and offer FF or Krown as an option when buying the vehicle. At the very least Toyota should add a paragraph in the owners manual to apply an "oil" undercoating, especially in the rust belt where that slushy brine is applied in the winter.

Markcal · Dec 15, 2018

After getting Toyotas undercoating, when working under my Tacoma I basically have to throw out my clothes and my arms are covered in the black undercoating. I have been applying FF over their undercoating and it does soften it up, but the biggest benefit is that FF locks the oxygen out which is one of the necessary ingredients for rust formation while creeping inside the front boxed section.

ToyotaRacingDev · Jan 4, 2019

Was wiring my backup camera just now and noticed this. It looks like it’s part of the frame behind the bumper and next to where the receiver bolts on. I hope that I’m eligible for the replacement. I can try and provide better pictures if anyone can confirm this is part of the frame back here, it’s a tight spot to get to

Tacotim0321 · Jan 4, 2019

ToyotaRacingDev[OP] said: ↑

Was wiring my backup camera just now and noticed this. It looks like it’s part of the frame behind the bumper and next to where the receiver bolts on. I hope that I’m eligible for the replacement. I can try and provide better pictures if anyone can confirm this is part of the frame back here, it’s a tight spot to get to

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Call exeter toyota and make an appointment with them to have it inspected. I'm very happy with the service they provide.

SWPA Tacoma · Jan 4, 2019

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I can only share my experience. My 2007 DC/OR was found to require a frame replacement. I was very uneasy about this and spoke with my local Toyota dealer. After some negotiations they offered me a very good trade in and I purchased my 2015. You could try and reach out to the dealership that was willing to work with you. My truck had 75,000 miles on it.
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May I ask what they gave you for your trade?

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