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ToyTec Lift en route! Need some advice

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Squaretail, Jan 25, 2012.

  1. Jan 25, 2012 at 1:42 PM
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    I finally ordered a 3" lift for my 08 Tacoma. After reviewing many threads on this forum and alot of research, I decided on the Toytec kit with bilsteins 5100s for front and rear, 2" AAL, Eibach coils, diff drop. and everything else it comes with.

    Now, of course I want new rubba!!! Top of the list now is the Toyo Open Country MT size: 285/75/16

    Questions:

    1) I am planning on new wheels soon, but if I use stock wheels with these tires, will I need wheel spacers? If so, I guess I'll get spidertrax
    2) What is the offset and backspacing on stock toyota wheels?
    3) TC UCA is in the future, so hopefully alignment will be ok?
     
  2. Jan 25, 2012 at 1:52 PM
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    Just curious, what did the whole setup set you back? I hope to do the same in the spring...
     
  3. Jan 25, 2012 at 1:52 PM
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    alignment should be fine, if your going to raise it up 2.5", 3" maybe you will need uca's for ideal alignment.
    your going to have to trim alot of plastic and maybe cab mount chop with those tires.
    not sure on back spacing, need to know what wheels you have, steelies, etc....
     
  4. Jan 25, 2012 at 2:24 PM
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    Welcome to TW. with the stock wheels you will need wheel spacers to clear the uca's with the 285/75's.
     
  5. Jan 25, 2012 at 3:12 PM
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    Toytec kit was $900....Tires are lookin like $240/tire

    So even if I buy wheels with 0 offset and 4.0-4.5 backspacing, can I also put in wheel spacers to take care of "some" of the rubbing.

    907Taco: Do you think I can get away with no trimming for just on road use or will pulling in to the driveway rub?
     
  6. Jan 25, 2012 at 3:21 PM
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    depends on your driveway, but i imagine yes


    edited for further info.
    i am lifted 3", pinch weld mod had to be done, before i got my cbi bumper i trimmed alot of plastic in the front also. mud flaps removed. on level pavement normal driving/turns etc... didn't feel any rub. Hard turns i rubbed and forget about off roading, cab mount chop mandatory. i did all the trimming and chop, local shop was like 45 dollars to weld the cab mount. < going to 285's is the right way to go IMO, looks better and more contact with the ground and chopping is really no big deal.
     
  7. Jan 25, 2012 at 4:11 PM
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    Wider is what causes most of the rubbing! It's easy to trim plastic and as far as the cab mount, it's hit or miss with needing it!
     
  8. Jan 25, 2012 at 4:46 PM
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    What is the whole deal with the drivers? passenger side lean? Can it be fixed with my toy tec lift?
     
  9. Jan 26, 2012 at 3:33 AM
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    Drivers side is .5" lower than passenger side. I believe the pre-assembled ones have the lean spacer in it but you would have to ask them. If you got the adjustable coilovers, you can make your own adjustments!
     
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    yeah getting spidertrax will help out a lot. I did the same thing on my 07 with stock sport rims and i got 1.25'' spidertrax and cut some of the plastic out of the fenderwell in the front and no more rubbing unless i hit a pretty nasty bump.
     
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    you will have to trim the plastic slightly and you cab mount in the front not a must but you will rub eventually but the lift is a good choice and great one to get you started, spidertrax are great spacers just make sure you get hub centric and as for total chaos there great and if you decide to upgrade your suspension in the front the are the company for the job
    drives side and passenger side lean is simply from you being in the truck it will lean about 5-10 mm but they have a spacer for it if you choose
     
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    If you buy wheels with 4.5" backspacing, you will not need wheel spacers. In fact at that point wheel spacers would make the rub worse.
     
  13. Jan 26, 2012 at 10:23 AM
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    So after reviewing my purchase and thinking about the drivers side lean, I noticed I bought the bilsteins 5100 Height Adjustable, and not the fully adjustable shocks. So I can only tune the height to either 1.5" or 3".
    Bad or good?

    The front coil overs did come pre-assembled so maybe they included the lean spacer?
     
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    The settings are 0, 0.85", 1.75", and 2.5". The lean spacer is a top plate spacer, not a coil spacer. It will go on top of the coilover assembly.
     
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    I have a full 3" lift front & back and am running stock UCAs with no problems, but I'm running 255/85 /16s on 1st Gen TRDs.
     
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    That would be the kit... But in a direct email to Jeff at Toytec, he said those shocks only have adjustments...1.5" and 3"??? I guess I'll find out when they come
     
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    Yeah my mistake I was quoting the settings on the shock itsself when used with stock coils. Since the eibachs give 1.6" of lift themselves, and that kit seems to have some sort of top plate spacer built in on each side, the numbers won't be the same as the settings with stock springs.
     
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    Lift Kit is HERE! Thanks for all your advice guys!

    So I called Toytec to ask what the coilovers were set at. Jeff said 0.85, which gives me the full 3in. So now Im a little confused because I thought the adjustment options were 0.85, 1.5, 2.5, and 3" or something like that???

    Can someone help me clarify this. the 5100 shocks are not the fully adjustable ones... Its the kit linked in this thread.
     
  20. Feb 1, 2012 at 4:44 PM
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    Also, do you think I need to install the rear axle degree shims?.... Seems like no big deal, but I dont want any vibrations later down the road.

    Toytec advised I install the front diff. drop. What do you guys think?
     
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