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toytec vs icon

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by kilgoja, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. Jan 16, 2010 at 10:28 PM
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    kilgoja

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    how much of a difference is there between these two coilovers?...the toytecs are $800 and the icons are around $1000....just wondering if the icons are worth the extra $200 or if they are only a little better
     
  2. Jan 16, 2010 at 10:30 PM
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    I just replaced my ToyTecs with ICON extended travel coils. I've just recently started to go offroading more. How much offroading do you do?
     
  3. Jan 16, 2010 at 11:27 PM
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    Icons, Bilstein 5100, Rear Leaf TSB, 17x9 American Racing Chamber Teflon, 275/70/17 Goodyear
    You can get the Icons for like $880 shipped from downsouthmotorsports. I would imagine the Icons are a little stiffer than the Toytecs because the shock valving is super tight and Icon also uses a 700 lbs. spring.
     
  4. Jan 17, 2010 at 12:05 AM
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    oh ok good info...i don't want stiffer.....i don't off road much ...just every once in awhile...mostly on road as a daily driver...what is the spring rate of the toytec?
     
  5. Jan 17, 2010 at 12:17 AM
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    I don'tknow about the Totec's, but I love my Icons. Don't have anything to compare them to, but I don't find the ride to harsh at all.
     
  6. Jan 17, 2010 at 12:22 AM
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    I have gone gone from stock shocks, to bilstein 5100s (toytec), to Icon 2.5. Without a doubt the best ride you will ever get is the ride you left the dealership with. Replacing your shocks with Icon or Toytec will give you a more firm ride which is ideal for offroading. I personally love my Icons when I offroad and have come to accept the stiffer ride I get on the highway. If you want to put a lift on the front of your truck to level it than I recommend the bilstein 5100s for their affordable price. They are only slightly stiffer than your stock shocks.
     
  7. Jan 17, 2010 at 12:39 AM
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    yeah at first i was gonna go with the 5100s and use the stock springs but i read some complaints that it was kindof a stiff ride when hitting cracks and such in the road since it compresses the stock springs to provide the lift....the toytec coilovers have 5100s in them but i've heard they ride good and not too stiff....i have no idea as i've never used it either way....is there any difference in using the 5100s with the stock springs set at 1.75" and using the toytec coilovers set at 1.75" ?....i don't know how different the springs are on the toytec coilovers than on the stock springs...all i can go by is what people have said on here in different threads....the conclusion i came to is that the toytec coilovers would be a better ride....anyone have experience with both?...i figure i'd be ok since my car is a mitsu evo ix mr with bilstein shocks....it's alot stiffer than my truck...truck feels like you are floating on the road so a little stiffer wouldn't hurt....i just don't want it to be too stiff where it gets annoying
     
  8. Jan 17, 2010 at 12:59 AM
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    1.75" is a good setting even if you are using your stock springs and 5100s. I never had a complaint until I went to 2.5" lift. That's when you really need to consider spring rates.
     
  9. Jan 17, 2010 at 8:07 AM
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    I had no complaints with my toytec's and they were a little softer than my friend's Camburg's. They aren't a bad ride for on road or a little offroading by any means.
     
  10. Jan 17, 2010 at 8:11 AM
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    The Toytec uses a non rebuildable Bilstien 5100 shock, and a 600# spring. The Icons have a rebuildable shock, and a 650# spring. Increasing the spring rate, increases the stiffness of the suspension. Both are valved accordingly for the springs they use.
     
  11. Jan 17, 2010 at 8:18 AM
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  12. Jan 17, 2010 at 8:22 AM
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    the advantage to Icons is that you can rebuild them. so a few years down the road when your bilsteins droop and fade, you'll have to drop some $$$ to get new ones. but with icons you send them back and they redo them. IIRC it's like 60$ and the price of shipping.....so way less than the cost of new shocks.

    I'm not saying the bilsteins suck, I have the 5100's for my rear shocks. they just have a softer ride, and a little lower quality.

    The advantage to stiff shocks is that the car recovers faster and you get less body roll or bouncing over big bumps. at least in my experience thats the change I noticed

    EDIT: Chris beat me to it :pout:
     
  13. Jan 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM
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    icons are so worth the extra $200. i wouldn't buy anyother OE replacement coilover
     
  14. Jan 17, 2010 at 9:09 AM
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    Icons are my planned suspension components when it's lift time. When things cost more, 99% of the time there's a good reason for it.
     
  15. Jan 17, 2010 at 9:13 AM
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    no comparison IMO

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  16. Jan 17, 2010 at 11:50 AM
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    ok thx for the replies...i have a reg cab so i think the toytecs would be better for me since my truck doesn't weigh as much as an ac or dc...plus i mostly drive on road and only off road sometimes...my truck is a daily driver...good info though for those trying to decide...i talked with toytec and they said they have an option for a 500lb eibach spring that i could use on my reg cab so it wouldn't be so stiff since the regular spring on the coilovers is 600lb
     
  17. Jan 18, 2010 at 12:42 PM
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    Go with the Icons, they will last forever since they are rebuildable, and they are also revalvable so you can change how stiff or firm you want them to be.
     
  18. Jan 18, 2010 at 3:29 PM
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    IMO the toytecs are an over priced threaded bili 5100 with and eibach coil. reg 5100's are adjustable anyways and you can buy your own coils for $100 and have close to the same thing for half the price. i'm sure they are a good product but Icon's are gonna blow your mind. i'd drop the extra $$$ and go with the tried and true race proven (back when the were donahoe racing) design.
     
  19. Jan 18, 2010 at 3:41 PM
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    yeah i'm sure they are better off road but the spring rate would be too stiff for my reg cab and for mostly driving on road as a daily driver
     
  20. Jan 18, 2010 at 3:48 PM
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    I read something about the bilsteins "drooping" eventually. About how long will this take to happen?
     
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