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Traction Control - Not That Aggressive

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by NC_Pinz, Dec 2, 2019.

  1. Dec 2, 2019 at 5:00 PM
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    NC_Pinz

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    Just curious if others experience the same thing. Wet road conditions at take off...light throttle or a wheel lights up. I was expecting the traction control to jump in there. Last night rolling low speed into a right hand turn, then on the throttle had the inside tire spinning up.

    My 2010 FJCruiser would never have this happen...the traction control was excessively intrusive. Almost to the point of being dangerous by cutting throttle early and leaving you barely rolling.

    Others?
     
  2. Dec 2, 2019 at 5:02 PM
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    Entirely too subjective to have a meaningful conclusion.
     
  4. Dec 2, 2019 at 5:07 PM
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    Might just be the dynamics of a truck. The bed makes the rear end lighter than an suv and the rear wheel drive can cause the back end to kick out easier. In fact, in snow and ice, I usually throw a couple bags of quikrete in the back to get better traction if my bed is empty. Good tires help as well.
     
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    Sounds odd. Give it more and more gas until you engage. Then don’t drive it like that on purpose. Sounds like the fj was fucked.
     
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    Yea I only notice the traction control coming in if the rear actually starts to move laterally, if the tires are hunting for traction but staying straight, seems to let them and only intervene if I'm starting to move laterally.

    Also confused as to why your tires are losing traction on wet roads. I only notice what I spoke to above on ice.
     
  7. Dec 3, 2019 at 5:15 AM
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    Solid response. I've not had the rear step out or move laterally; only tire spin. Typically on take off and when I evidently ease into the throttle too much. Easy throttle yields no spin.

    For the FJ, the traction control didn't allow any significant wheel spin on the road. It reacted the same as my son's 4th gen 4Runner...TC stepping in with almost any wheel spin. For my son, he'd see it on a wet road and a particular right hand turn with a poorly placed relatively smooth manhole cover. Accelerated fine until the rear rolled over the cover, and the slight break in traction led to the throttle being cut. Makes for a hairy ride when you are trying to pull out into traffic in the rain.

    One note...I'm not trying to do burn outs. I just observed the Tacoma's traction control acting differently than two other Toyota 4wd products and was wondering what others had experienced. As to why my tires are breaking traction, they are Goodyear Duratracs with a 265 width. Maybe a lead foot and no load in the bed.
     
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  8. Dec 3, 2019 at 5:20 AM
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    I have a double cab and about 200 lbs in the bed at most times. I most definitely notice a difference with the load in the bed! Much better traction and less interventions. Chepek EXT tires, usually switch to winters by now but they are killing it on the early season storms. Everyone out here in the CO mtns run duratracs, must mean something! Haha
     
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    It's the light load in the back, whereas the SUV has more weight around the back tires.
     
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    Mine gets overly aggressive if it senses lateral movement also - completely shuts throttle and starts grinding on individual brakes until all four are travelling in the same line again. It used to be a huge problem on the stock Firestones - those tires did not handle light mist, oil-slicked roads at all. Since I got rid of those tires I havent really had traction loss unless it was on purpose.
     
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  11. Dec 3, 2019 at 5:47 AM
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    Sounds more like VSC than traction control...
     
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    you want to see a bad traction control, my old 2008 rav4 would beep super loud, cut all throttle and the abs would go nuts if you started to slide just a little. The beep was the worst part, who thought it was a good idea to add extra beeping when your in a slide?
     
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    Had the truck kick out on me twice already at highway speeds. Scary shit. Traction never kicked in. It was like one of those Afghan Camry drifters on straight road. Rpm kick to fast with tacoma throttle response just to overpass.
     
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    Mine typically engages if I have lateral movement, as another stated. Otherwise the truck typically lets the tires try and find it with some exceptions.

    The stock tires were terrible, would break traction in wet conditions often if I was too aggressive from the start. Now have Falken Wildpeaks and that hasn't happened since. Funny thing was I got a nail in a rear tire when I first got the Falkens and had to put the spare on (which was the stock tire at the time). Slipping in wet conditions came right back. I don't miss the stock tires whatsoever
     
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  15. Dec 3, 2019 at 6:39 AM
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    We just had a weekend of snow then black ice in Minnesota. I have a climb coming out of my place, and when the roads are plowed and the freeze at night they are pretty slick. My Grabber ATx tires have been doing well enough that the truck has usually been in 2WD, and if I get a bit of slip at an intersection or hill, I just engage the auto limited slip diff. As said in a previous post, I've not been able to get lateral movement unless I try, and in those situation, traction control engages, unless I want to play and have the auto LSD engaged.

    (This possibly makes sense)
     
  16. Dec 3, 2019 at 7:01 AM
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    Some serious tires
    My traction control is so aggresive, i cant even kick my back end out :(

    Oh the fun i had in my ranger tho...
     
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    Just shovel some snow into the bed. When it warms up enough for the roads to be clear, your bed will be empty automatically.
     
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    I want to know more about auto LSD......
     
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    Like others have said, mine kicks in aggressively with lateral movement.

    I have a long uphill gravel driveway and am sure the tires slip on the rocks. I would be cussing at this truck everyday if traction control came on just from minor wheel slipping, or if I had to turn off traction control everyday to avoid it coming on all the time.

    I'm happy with how it works.
     
  20. Dec 3, 2019 at 8:49 AM
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    General Grabber ATx 265/75/R16 tires. Yaesu FTM-400. BAK Revolver X4 tonneau. Nitro 4.88s.
    * This represents my current understanding...which may be flawed.

    It's this button to the left of the steering wheel.
    IMG_1691.jpg

    When enabled, the following lights (marked) are displayed on the dash.
    IMG_1692.jpg

    The AUTO LSD is the feature that will automatically break a spinning wheel to divert power to the other. When enabled, it also disables traction control and the pre-collision stuff. When I find myself on a slick surface where my rear is spinning, I'll push the button and get enough of a shove to continue on... but if I give it too much gas, with the traction control off, I can flip the rear. This has been really handy this week on the first icy snowy roads of the season. ... and it's handy if one were to want to drift a bit in the snow.

    I hope this helps.
     
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