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Tranny SHUDDER Toyota Certified RIPOFF

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by applebmw, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. Feb 21, 2013 at 5:17 PM
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    Bought a 09 PreRunner 7,000 miles ago with Toyota Certified Warranty, they telling me it shudders because fluid needs changed in tranny, NOT COVERED under warranty.......$160 per change, may take up to three times....Any Help here ? been reading about spill and fill, three quarts at a time, prolly same thing there doing.....Anybody had the problem?? Results?? I going to do myself in garage

    OK, UPDATE....I changed trans fluid.13Qts,,,,,,,09 PreRunner DOES Have a atf light when you use jump wire as explained, tells when hot enough to check.....It STILL Shudders,,,going back to dealer tommorow for further checking, Hope they take care of it this time, Cost me $135 for the fluid..plus time.
     
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  2. Feb 21, 2013 at 5:19 PM
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    if its the shudder everyone has, its not your tranny fluid.
     
  3. Feb 21, 2013 at 5:19 PM
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    When ever I asked Toyota people about trans fluid, they always say it NEVER needs to be changed. How many miles you got on that truck?
     
  4. Feb 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM
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    Please explain your shudder. It could be suspension related more than trans.

    Also how many miles are on the truck? Trans fluid changes are not recommended even by the dealer, some state lifetime fluid or 100K.

    We all know trans fluid breaks down as its life goes on so some here do it every 30-50K.
     
  5. Feb 21, 2013 at 5:31 PM
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    bought truck with 57k miles, has 62k miles now, shudders at 40-42 mph in overdrive, 1200-1300 rpm, just kinda passes throu, can't get it to do constant, just started last 200 miles,,,,,,,,,,they say replace tranny fluid, if that does not work, tearing into tranny...
     
  6. Feb 21, 2013 at 5:35 PM
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    so what is it??
     
  7. Feb 21, 2013 at 5:44 PM
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    BUCKLE UP! It makes it harder for Aliens to pull you out of your Truck.
    Check the driveshaft center bearing for excessive play. Get underneath and grab the driveshaft and push and pull (side to side) there should be very little play. On my old truck the thing must of had 8" side to side play.[​IMG]
     
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    That would be the driveline/suspension shudder that is typically at take off to 30mph. Varies from vehicle to vehicle from leaf springs being weak, trans level due to mount/crossmember, carrier bearing, pinion angle etc. There is a couple of TSB's on this but not many reach a cure.

    Yours sounds like converter and or converter lock up based on mph and rpm.
     
  9. Feb 21, 2013 at 6:01 PM
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    Mine does the same thing
     
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    OP, tighten your U-bolts (hold your leafs in place) to 90 ft lbs of torque. thatll fix your issue.
     
  12. Feb 21, 2013 at 6:25 PM
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    Mine does it as well. If you want to drain n fill your trans, it's pretty simple. My drain n fills have been 4 qts. Here are some helpful links.

    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/68462-diy-full-flush-automatic-transmission.html

    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/63851-how-drain-refill-automatic-transmission.html

    Good luck
     
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    Not the U bolts
     
  15. Feb 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM
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    Local trans shop says replace fluid, drive couple days, if does not fix, replace again, These guys are pro's, i know/trust em. say the converter making the shudder, water in fluid, moister, Believe gonna try it, after I get truck back from Dealer....why is it after pricks get your $$$ for car, they not even return phone calls about problems??? Toyota Direct, Columbus OHIO...basturds
     
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    Make sure trans fluid level is spot on. These trans are very picky about trans level. So if you are doing the work yourself and trans shifts odd or even worse afterwards double check level after driving a bit to verify full circulation.

    I feel your pain on the extended warranty, check my thoughts by my screen name, it has been that was since I bought my truck as well.

    I had luck recently getting a bunch of work done before my ext platinum warranty expired. Got a new wheel bearing, water pump and fan motor so it is possible for them to be nice and grant work to be done but it seems like it pullling teeth.
     
  17. Feb 22, 2013 at 2:33 PM
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    I have 40k miles since my last drain n fill. I did it 3x, with the last at 50k. I plan on doing a major service in about 4k miles, which all fluids will be replaced. I didn't notice this hesitation between 40-45mph til about 5k miles ago, but when I drained n refilled, I did notice the trans shifting much nicer than previously. I wouldn't guarantee that draining and refilling will alleviate the shudder, but it won't hurt. Best way to get rid of the shudder is not to drive up hill, in OD, at 40-45mph. That's where I notice the shudder the most. Others may have different input though.
     
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    My shudder at take off was cured by a u-joint replacement covered under warranty. I was and still am skeptical but that's what they told me they did and with 40K on the repair it hasn't returned.
     
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    What engine do you have? I have a V6 DCLB 4x4 and I have a shutter at 40mph consistent. I believe it's a shift point and its just not quite sure what to do... I do have a take off shutter as well. What your describing sounds like the shift point. If you drive 40 and stay at a constant speed does it feel like its chugging?

    I hardly think you need to change your fluid...
     
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