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Transmission/Clutch (?) issue after off-roading today

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by eon_blue, May 30, 2016.

  1. May 30, 2016 at 8:36 PM
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    So I was out wheeling today on a trail that was much too advanced for a stock first gen to handle, but I made it through without any visible damage. A lot of substantially sized-rock climbing on steep inclines/declines.

    After we finished the trail, I got back on the freeway and everything seemed fine until I went shift under high RPMs. When doing so, the truck goes into gear just fine but there's this 'grunting' noise coming from just below me (transmission I assume). It's not really a metal grinding noise, it almost sounds like a low, far away roll of thunder which is why I at first thought I did something to my exhaust. But it only happens when I shift and only when I do it at around 3k RPM's or higher. It's especially bad going from 1st to 2nd, then 2nd to third...3-4 and 4-5 I don't hear it at all. After the grunting noise there's sometimes a rattle that follows it, kind of like the rattle you hear when you shift into too high of a gear until you get up to speed. Only that's not the issue here.

    I was pretty hard on my clutch throughout the day, a lot of sudden stopping while in 4lo on hills and long, slow, rocky climbs that involved a lot of foot work.

    Any ideas? should've stayed home today lol :bananadead:
     
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  2. May 30, 2016 at 8:42 PM
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    Time for a clutch/pilot/throw out bearing
     
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  3. May 30, 2016 at 9:31 PM
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  4. May 31, 2016 at 12:35 AM
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    I would see how things are after the truck sits over night.

    Possible your clutch might just have been a little hot yet !!

    Then how many miles on the drive train might impact things
     
  5. May 31, 2016 at 9:15 AM
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    I was hoping for that, but this morning it was just as bad on my way to work :( It's developed a creaking sound too (not the clutch pedal) that happens when I press the clutch in, then the grinding is especially noticeable after going from first to second from a stop.

    Something's definitely up, I can't get my truck in to the shop until maybe tomorrow morning, hoping the clutch/tranny doesn't crap out on me before then...

    If it take it easy on shifting (below 2.5k rpms) then everything appears normal.
     
  6. May 31, 2016 at 9:17 AM
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    Good time to upgrade the clutch
     
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    oh and my truck only has 27 thousand miles on it (very low for an '04), I picked it up only a few months ago but I'm certain it's still on the stock clutch and parts.

    Between the supercharger though and the frequent wheeling I've been doing since I got it, I fear that maybe the stock clutch isn't up to the task.
     
  8. May 31, 2016 at 9:19 AM
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    Yeah that's what I'm hoping the issue is, even though the labor costs are a bitch with clutch replacement. I'm just hoping it isn't anything too serious like I overheated the tranny and put it on the brink of death or something (I'm cynical what can I say lol)
     
  9. May 31, 2016 at 9:20 AM
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    Haha just do it yourself! Not too bad
     
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  10. May 31, 2016 at 9:23 AM
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    :eek: haha

    I do prefer to wrench on my truck on my own, but replacing the fuel filter is about as complicated as I've gotten lol
     
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    I brought my own clutch and throw out and pilot bearing to clutch masters in Tujunga. I think they charged me like $300? I can't remember
     
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    I agree with the majority. Throwout/ clutch release bearing. Any able shop with a lift and a transmission jack can replace the bearing. Forget replacing the clutch......your truck is still a infant.
     
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  13. May 31, 2016 at 9:57 AM
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    Nice! I'll take it to them, thanks Jimmy
     
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    UPDATE:

    Took my truck into a local auto shop today, guy told me that my trans skid plate got pushed up against the transfer case when it hit one of the rocks I was crawling over. So whenever I was shifting under high RPM, it would rub against the skid and make the grunting/grinding sound I was hearing.

    They took it off and bent it back into shape, issue is resolved!

    Good thing I had that skid plate or I may have lost my 4x4 out on the trail...
     
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    That little stock t-case skid is ridiculous. And now that it's been collapsed once, it'll do it even easier the next time.

    It may be time for a set of real skids.
     
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    I have an aftermarket skid plate under there

    0530162050a.jpg
     
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    Pretty sure if I had a stock plate there it would've been much worse lol
     
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    I've always wondered how well the skidrow belly skid holds up, now we know. :rofl: Tho I suppose, if you come down hard enough on any skid its gonna give.
     
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    That's what brand it is! Haha I've been trying to figure it out ever since I got the truck. Thanks! Lol
     
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    Yeah honestly I bottomed out on that rock REALLY hard, I think that skid held up pretty well considering. It just sits pretty close to the t-case is my only concern, there's maybe an inch worth of space between
     
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