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Transmission Fluid Temperature PIDs for Torque Pro and NOW APPLE!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by tow-coma, Oct 4, 2017.

  1. Jan 30, 2024 at 6:09 PM
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    trgfunds

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    Just wanted to update. It was the adapter. It fired right up with a new adapter. So if anyone is getting NO DATA and you're sure you have the right info, try another adapter. Thanks again @Tacogent and everyone.
     
  2. Feb 5, 2024 at 4:28 PM
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    :). YUP !
     
  3. Jul 8, 2024 at 3:25 PM
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    2023 SR5 V6. Torque Pro (current version). Had tried numbers found in various posts and wasn't working. Plugged in the numbers on the first post here and it seems to be working fine. It wouldn't work without the 701 Header setting. Had about 130F after about 10 minutes (maybe more I wasn't keeping track) of idling while fiddling with things. Outdoor temp is 82. Would be nice to verify that somehow...
    I see I can put in a high temp alarm point and the display will flash. But it doesn't put a red line on the gauge. Is there a way to do that? Does anyone have the PIDs for torque converter lockup? Other things? Would be great to find a bigger list.

    My dongle is an old one that is long and hangs way below the dash. Not a big problem but I will probably pick up a shorter one.
     
  4. Jul 8, 2024 at 5:01 PM
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    I really wanted the SG-III, but went with my iPhone instead.
    I take the phone with me when I exit the truck.
     
  5. Aug 9, 2024 at 6:27 AM
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    Installed the Pro version today and got everything dialed in the way I want for my 2022 SR5 V6 except I can't for the life of me figure out how to change coolant temp to *F instead of *C. Any tips?
     
  6. Aug 9, 2024 at 4:46 PM
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    Figured it out. Apparently it has to connect to the OBD2 dongle in the truck to switch to Fahrenheit.
     
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  7. Aug 9, 2024 at 5:10 PM
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    Oh sorry about that.

    You need to Bluetooth and pair the OBD2 adapter unit when in the car to the Torque Pro app on your Tablet or what ever device you use that has Bluetooth functionality.

    On Torque Pro, you need to add a custom PID for each of the two - 221627 and 221628. The pairing then attaches the ODB2 Bluetooth functionality to the, in my case Tablet.

    Set up your Vehicle Profile and add the desired display dial of your choice. Attach the proper PID with/to the display dial and then you get the readings when the ODB2 is in the ecu connection, sending its signal to your tablet.
     
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  8. Aug 9, 2024 at 5:18 PM
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    No need to apologize. I appreciate any help. The trans temps showed up and did so in Fahrenheit as soon as I put the PID's in, the engine temp was stuck in Celcius until I linked it to the truck. I'm pulling my quad on a 5x8 trailer and pulling it about 4 hours north next week, not a lot of weight but I'm looking forward to monitoring the trans temps.
     
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  9. Aug 10, 2024 at 6:51 AM
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    I found a similar requirement with OBD Fusion on my iPhone.
    It wouldn't pick up the enhanced diagnostics after changing the year to 2021, so I deleted the vehicle and recreated as 2021.
    It wanted to scan for additional PIDs, which did pick them up.

    I am glad OBD Fusion does not override the vehicle year by getting info from the VIN.
    Otherwise, the 2021 diagnostics would not work with my 2023.

    The OBD Fusion user interface is a bit clunky.
    One cannot edit an individual PID on the group panel.
    But must instead delete the panel, then recreate all the PIDS wanted on that panel.

    I develop software for the Windows platform, not IOS, so I don't know if there is some tech reason for this clunky behavior or just a sloppy programmer.
    But it is clunky.
     
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    I'm supposing you have a Thermostat on the pass side on the trans. Will you pin it open?

    Here's a flow picture for my 2021 TRD Sport, 6 cyl, 3.5L with towing pkg. Note the Trans fluid warmer PUCK, (heated from the engine) and the Trans Oil Thermostat. Note the out flow line (top connection to the radiator Trans oil Cooler) and return line (bottom).

    upload_2024-8-10_7-21-58.png
     
  11. Aug 10, 2024 at 9:19 AM
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    @Tacogent I'll probably not pin it and see what numbers it runs. Maybe next trip up I'll pin it.
     
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    Since you're running unpinned (normal), I expect that your pan temp TF1 will be about 185F- 195F - near engine coolant temp, pretty consistently when driving flat. ... and that torque con TF2 to be near that and to change upward with any uphill pulls ..
     
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    Screen shot from last year trip with T-Stat PINNED.
    Here's the closest screen shot I could get. McGuireville Rest Area South through Phoenix to home near Tucson.
    203 miles driven, 3hrs 38min driving, at 106F outside, 203 coolant temp, with 173F in the PAN and 176F TC at about 1:23 PM. Car at freeway rest stop. Coolant seems to range between 185F and 205F on any one trip.
    [​IMG]

    I wonder what Trans Temps would be if it was pinned.
     
  14. Aug 10, 2024 at 4:20 PM
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    Yeah, there's a good amount of uphill climbs and for a 5x8 open trailer with a single 4x4 quad on it this truck sure works hard up those hills. I've done the OTT tune and Anderson intake spacer since last trip with this load so I'm interested to see how it helps. The spacer was a noticeable improvement IMO.
     
  15. Aug 10, 2024 at 5:17 PM
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    Unpinned, it will never go lower than 187 degrees where the thermostat opens.

    I’m running 190 around town, 99 degrees ambient, 200 coolant, unpinned, no external cooler for trans pan temp.
     
  16. Aug 10, 2024 at 5:21 PM
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    Yeah, how low it'll go isn't a question. I'm curious how high it'll get with a small trailer behind it. ;)
     
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    Then a big, max efficiency filter and maybe a fan kit is in your future. That is certainly the way I would go.
     
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    You know..... I'll be interested in the trans temps. You're keeping the same basic cooling capacity, BUT increasing the resultant engine output with the OTT tune and spacer.
    By the laws of Physics, that should generate MORE heat ... hmmmm. Right?

    By increasing energy output (however you do that) you would think you'd need a proportional/concomitant increase in cooling capacity to maintain what the non-tuned energy out put engine/cooling position would have been.

    Wow, this is interesting! Keep us informed.
     
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    On the flip side it could pull the trailer with less downshifting up hills and maybe in 5th instead of 4th more of the time and create less heat. Unfortunately I don't have a "before" set of temps to compare to.
     
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    Possibly. I want to see how it does like this the after I install the cooler before moving on to more complex options.
     

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