1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

TRD blower questions, maybe issues?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by 12TRDTacoma, Aug 3, 2015.

  1. Aug 3, 2015 at 1:07 PM
    #1
    12TRDTacoma

    12TRDTacoma [OP] Powered by Ford, GM, VW, and Mercedes

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Member:
    #85133
    Messages:
    16,546
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Concordia
    Vehicle:
    12 TRD Sport DCLB 4x4 Supercharged
    Boosted
    I obviously got one and haven't had it in for an overly long amount of time, stock pulley on an otherwise stock system minus the AEM fuel pump.

    Anyways, during boost I notice that the most I possibly make is around 5.4 at sea level. I have to be stomping on it good to get to that. I thought these blowers were getting up to 6 or 7psi? Is that normal?

    Also, is it normal to watch a digital boost gauge mildly jump between pressures as you drive it? Lets say I'm driving down the road and give it boost. I am seeing at that moment 3.5 and it goes to 3.8 but then it'll vary and drop back down to 3.5 or 3.2 (in a quuck manner) unless I throttle deeper into the pedal. It never stays solid in one number for very long like 3.5 or 4.2 psi for example. It mildly fluctuates under boost basically. Normal?
     
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2015
  2. Aug 3, 2015 at 3:17 PM
    #2
    Redsyota

    Redsyota Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2014
    Member:
    #141820
    Messages:
    355
    Gender:
    Male
    Denver
    Vehicle:
    15' SPORT 6 SPEED ACLB MGM
    Some of the things...
    Weather will dramatically effect my psi here in Kansas. I see a max of 6 with cool evening temps now but in 95+ degree days I barely see 5. Also the boost ramps up so you won't ever see you max at 2500-4500 rpms. On the gauge deal I don't have a clue since I've got a manual gauge and it seems very smooth in operation.
     
  3. Aug 3, 2015 at 4:13 PM
    #3
    Brianawd

    Brianawd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2014
    Member:
    #144031
    Messages:
    245
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Portland OR,
    Vehicle:
    2015 Tacoma dclb
    Billstein 5100s set at 2.5 in the front,2in AAL in the rear with 5100s
    Like stated about. High temps will lower your boost as the air is not as dense as it is when its colder.
     
  4. Aug 3, 2015 at 4:20 PM
    #4
    ktmkris

    ktmkris Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2015
    Member:
    #159750
    Messages:
    48
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    kris
    Vehicle:
    2014 tacoma trd offroad 4x4
    Trd supercharger Banks 3 inch exhaust 3 inch lift
    my truck in charlotte nc area makes 5.5 lbs of boost. It will spike to 6lbs. so I would say thats about right.
     
  5. Aug 3, 2015 at 4:21 PM
    #5
    jberry813

    jberry813 Professional Fluffer Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Member:
    #49636
    Messages:
    28,471
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Lake Tahoe
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Sport
    ...too much shit to list.
    Also, there's a boost driven bypass actuator on the S/C itself. Under full boost the valve shuts allowing all the air to flow into the intake manifold. Under little to moderate boost the valve may not be closed all the way which would account for the change in boost you were describing.

    And digital boost gauge as in digital readout running off a T on the boost port? Or you have an electronic boost gauge using a MAP sensor to get boost pressure.
     
  6. Aug 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM
    #6
    12TRDTacoma

    12TRDTacoma [OP] Powered by Ford, GM, VW, and Mercedes

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Member:
    #85133
    Messages:
    16,546
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Concordia
    Vehicle:
    12 TRD Sport DCLB 4x4 Supercharged
    Boosted
    The way I have it running right now is a direct connection from the available (normally capped off) vacuum port running to a map which then converts all its information over into a digital guage. It's made by MTX.

    So the way boost ramps on these is different then on something like lets say the Terminator Mustang's due to its fly by wire vs. Cable operated throttle?
     
  7. Aug 3, 2015 at 4:36 PM
    #7
    jberry813

    jberry813 Professional Fluffer Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Member:
    #49636
    Messages:
    28,471
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Lake Tahoe
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Sport
    ...too much shit to list.
    Gotcha. My money's on the actuator. Go-pro the actuator and I bet you anything you'll see the arm moving.
     
  8. Aug 3, 2015 at 4:40 PM
    #8
    12TRDTacoma

    12TRDTacoma [OP] Powered by Ford, GM, VW, and Mercedes

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Member:
    #85133
    Messages:
    16,546
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Concordia
    Vehicle:
    12 TRD Sport DCLB 4x4 Supercharged
    Boosted
    You think the arm may be causing the erratic activity that shows up on my boost guage? Is there an adjustment to it ir something? Its that linkage assembly to the rear of the SC housing isn't it.
     
  9. Aug 3, 2015 at 4:40 PM
    #9
    jberry813

    jberry813 Professional Fluffer Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Member:
    #49636
    Messages:
    28,471
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Lake Tahoe
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Sport
    ...too much shit to list.
    No, just fluctuation in boost pressure. That's why I don't like digital readouts for boost gauges.
    And yes, the actuator is on the back side of the s/c by the firewall on 2nd gens.
     
  10. Aug 3, 2015 at 4:43 PM
    #10
    12TRDTacoma

    12TRDTacoma [OP] Powered by Ford, GM, VW, and Mercedes

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Member:
    #85133
    Messages:
    16,546
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Concordia
    Vehicle:
    12 TRD Sport DCLB 4x4 Supercharged
    Boosted
    I see. Yeah I could understand that. I wanted analog initially, but it just blended very well with the dash and bezels colors. It looked good mounted up on the dash. I guess maybe I should just stop qorrying about it. I'll try to take a video of it so I can determine 100%. Thanks for all your help lately Jason. Everyone else who chimed in as well!
     
  11. Aug 3, 2015 at 5:00 PM
    #11
    nd4spdbh

    nd4spdbh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Member:
    #114055
    Messages:
    13,920
    Gender:
    Male
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    13 DCSB TRD OR v6 Auto
    let me ponder here.

    Why would anyone want to have a device that lets boost bypass (the actuator in question). Seems like thats defeating the purpose of the SC under non WOT conditions.
     
  12. Aug 3, 2015 at 5:03 PM
    #12
    OyamaTacoma

    OyamaTacoma Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2015
    Member:
    #159263
    Messages:
    39
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Thomas
    Oyama British Columbia
    Vehicle:
    07 Silver FJ Cruiser 6MT
    Airaid cold air intake Custom sub box Aftermarket stereo Yakima bike rack Blind spot mirrors
    5 to 6 psi is normal. 6 psi at sea level. Less if you're higher in elevation. If you want more info on the subject just head over to XRU
     
  13. Aug 3, 2015 at 5:06 PM
    #13
    jberry813

    jberry813 Professional Fluffer Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Member:
    #49636
    Messages:
    28,471
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Lake Tahoe
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Sport
    ...too much shit to list.
    Why would you want full boost under idle or mild acceleration? The actuator is intended to conserve fuel and reduce operational load of the supercharger on the engine. You'll also reduce supercharger temps.
     
    12TRDTacoma[OP] likes this.
  14. Aug 3, 2015 at 5:16 PM
    #14
    12TRDTacoma

    12TRDTacoma [OP] Powered by Ford, GM, VW, and Mercedes

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Member:
    #85133
    Messages:
    16,546
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Concordia
    Vehicle:
    12 TRD Sport DCLB 4x4 Supercharged
    Boosted
    5.4 psi is the most I have ever seen. And that is about as temporary as a prostitute who just found out she is getting underpaid for her services then storms out. I thought it was a bit easier to hit that number though. Normally I see a bit lower on the guage, about 4.8 psi.

    Makes sense. I would assume that is one of the reasons why the roots blower is one of the most efficient blowers out there that doesn't penalize you heavily just for having the blower operating.
     
  15. Aug 3, 2015 at 5:31 PM
    #15
    nd4spdbh

    nd4spdbh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Member:
    #114055
    Messages:
    13,920
    Gender:
    Male
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    13 DCSB TRD OR v6 Auto
    Because more boost creates a more efficient motor. Id much rather have more power under low to mid throttle openings where the truck spends 90% of its life. Maybe im just thinking about it all wrong.
     
  16. Aug 3, 2015 at 5:44 PM
    #16
    jberry813

    jberry813 Professional Fluffer Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Member:
    #49636
    Messages:
    28,471
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Lake Tahoe
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Sport
    ...too much shit to list.
    Please explain how higher air intake temperatures increase engine efficiency. :popcorn:
     
  17. Aug 3, 2015 at 5:54 PM
    #17
    12TRDTacoma

    12TRDTacoma [OP] Powered by Ford, GM, VW, and Mercedes

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Member:
    #85133
    Messages:
    16,546
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Concordia
    Vehicle:
    12 TRD Sport DCLB 4x4 Supercharged
    Boosted
    And here I was thinking I possibly had pulley slippage occuring. This is good info to know. Thanks Christian! :thumbsup:

    Yeah it does. Crazy. I feel them every once in a while.
     
  18. Aug 3, 2015 at 6:13 PM
    #18
    jberry813

    jberry813 Professional Fluffer Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Member:
    #49636
    Messages:
    28,471
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Lake Tahoe
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Sport
    ...too much shit to list.
    I'll save you the grief. Look up supercharger cavitation.
     
  19. Aug 3, 2015 at 6:52 PM
    #19
    nd4spdbh

    nd4spdbh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Member:
    #114055
    Messages:
    13,920
    Gender:
    Male
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    13 DCSB TRD OR v6 Auto

    ah shit.... see you found my weakness.... i hate reading books. But give me a technical topic to research and understand and there goes my evening on wikipedia and technical documents.

    From my quick 10 min o searching i understand it as not starving the rotors for air to pull at on the roots style of positive displacement superchargers. So at low throttle openings where its hard to pull air through it would actually be a detriment to performance and supercharger life.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top