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TRD, EBC or Hawk brakes?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by beavis87, Jan 13, 2018.

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TRD, Hawk or EBC pads and rotors?

  1. TRD pads with OEM or StopTech rotors

    32 vote(s)
    50.8%

  2. Hawk pads and rotors

    10 vote(s)
    15.9%

  3. EBC pads and rotors

    21 vote(s)
    33.3%
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  1. Jan 13, 2018 at 9:09 PM
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    beavis87

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    I'm needing new brakes and I've narrowed it down to three options. Just unsure what will be best for this truck. I want better braking performance, low noise and pad life. I don't care about brake dust. Also want good rotors that will not warp or tear up pads and provide better than OEM quality and performance.

    The cheapest option is the TRD pads ($81) with new OEM rotors ($100). Alternatively looking at StopTech/Centric slotted rotors ($90), think the StopTech's are even cryo treated for whatever that means. Also, who makes the TRD pads? Heard that Brembo does, but not sure.
    The next cheapest option is Hawk rotors and pads, specifically their Hawk Performance Ceramic Brake Pads ($63) and Hawk Sector 27 Brake Rotors ($128). So barely more than the TRD option.
    The most expensive option is the EBC Yellowstuff pads ($132) and EBC Ultimax or BSD rotors ($182-183). Still unsure if I should go Ultimax or BSD rotors and Greenstuff ($108) or Yellowstuff, opinions?

    Does "you get what you pay for" apply towards these products? Is EBC worth the extra $100? Are Hawk rotors any better than the equivalent Centric or StopTech rotors? Are the Hawk pads of lesser quality than the TRD and EBC pads? What is the best brake for the buck?
     
    beavis87, Jan 13, 2018
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  2. Jan 13, 2018 at 9:25 PM
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    JDawg562

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    I was just looking at EBC stuff today lol. I'm interested too.
     
    JDawg562, Jan 13, 2018
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  3. Jan 13, 2018 at 9:33 PM
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    inwood customs

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    Faded hawks and brembo blanks twice.

    Ebc stage 5, no fade in 6+yrs
     
    inwood customs, Jan 13, 2018
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  4. Jan 13, 2018 at 9:38 PM
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    I was going to go OEM rotors with Brembo pads (assuming they exist for taco) but want to see results of this thread
     
    Oreo Cat, Jan 13, 2018
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  5. Jan 13, 2018 at 10:30 PM
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    crashnburn80

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    Go Hawks!
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  6. Jan 13, 2018 at 10:37 PM
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    aleriance

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    I recall reading a long study a few years ago that rigorously tested differences between solid rotors, slotted, drilled, and drilled/slotted... They had concluded that in virtually every braking scenario, you will have the best all around performance with rotors that are ONLY drilled.
     
    aleriance, Jan 13, 2018
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  7. Jan 13, 2018 at 11:32 PM
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    Drilling can lead to cracking
     
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  8. Jan 20, 2018 at 8:04 PM
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    Decided to go with
    $135 Toyota Brake Pad - PTR09-89111
    TRD Brake Pad (PTR09-89111) and Centric High Carbon Plain 125 Series Cryo-Treated Rotors (125.44129CRY). About $100 for pads at dealer and $200 for rotors from Tire Rack. The pads look like brake pads, nothing too special about them, although I feel their magic is in the pad compound. The rotors do seem better than rotors that were on there. Glad that these won't rust right away. After bedding in the pads, the brakes are now much grippier. I planned on installing SS lines and flushing the brake fluid but I didn't have time. I'm sure after that it will be even better.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    beavis87, Jan 20, 2018
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  9. Jan 21, 2018 at 8:57 PM
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    OP, I think you'll happy with your choice.

    I've read similar in an SAE Manual.

    Not bedding correctly can lead to all sorts of problems including brake fade.
     
    JTM1, Jan 21, 2018
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  10. Jan 21, 2018 at 11:07 PM
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    Nice choice. I personally like Hawk pads pads though. They bite really well and don't squeal.
     
    runner05, Jan 21, 2018
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  11. Jan 22, 2018 at 9:25 AM
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    I used the EBC plan rotors and the Ultimak pads. Maybe 5k on them. They work great and not too expensive..
     
    REDdawn6, Jan 22, 2018
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  12. Jan 22, 2018 at 10:46 AM
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    I've been looking at the EBC kits on Amazon. Good prices for sure. Not sure what "stage" or color pads I would go with.
     
    SeanBonham, Jan 22, 2018
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  13. Jan 22, 2018 at 11:46 AM
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    I went with Hawk lts pads and brembo blank rotors. Good results this far
     
    taco2010trd, Jan 22, 2018
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  14. Sep 28, 2018 at 12:21 PM
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    taco2010trd,

    Just ordered
    StopTech 126.42055SR and 126.42055SL rotors from Amazon

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EQ1ZV8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    and TRD pads:
    $135 Toyota Brake Pad - PTR09-89111
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005580ENU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I'll let you know if this solves my poor braking problem. $600 dollars spent so far on 2 new master cyls, rebuilt calipers, new pads, cut rotors, bleeding brakes, new shoes in back etc. Hopefully I will get the brakes working!
     
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  15. Sep 28, 2018 at 12:27 PM
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    Make sure your rear brakes have been checked and are adjusted properly
     
    taco2010trd, Sep 28, 2018
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  16. Sep 28, 2018 at 12:53 PM
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  17. Sep 28, 2018 at 12:54 PM
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    taco2010trd,

    Adjusted, bled the back brakes at least 5 times now, no improvement. the pedal is high but pressure does not translate to the brakes grabbing. Even extreme foot pressure marginally increases braking. Truck just keeps sliding or skating towards another car! I'm using the truck in city commuting and it's a scary ride every day!
     
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  18. Sep 28, 2018 at 12:57 PM
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    I had a bad starwheel adjuster on one of mine. Prevented proper adjustment
     
    taco2010trd, Sep 28, 2018
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  19. Sep 28, 2018 at 1:04 PM
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    I had a similar experience, recently replaced the "parking brake arm" and it's been night and day getting and keeping the rear brakes adjusted. Before I replaced it I would adjust the rear brakes and it would only last a week or two before "my brakes faded"
     
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  20. Sep 28, 2018 at 7:55 PM
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    Hawk HPS on my truck and I have yet to fade them.
     
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