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TRD off road wheel offset vs TRD pro wheel offset

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Sh56, Mar 23, 2023.

  1. Mar 24, 2023 at 11:20 AM
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    Your good unless those are LED bulbs in a halogen headlight. Straight to hell if that's the case!!!
     
  2. Mar 24, 2023 at 11:22 AM
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    ok then enlighten me with this data
    the dealer put PRO wheels on for me and never told me they will put stress on parts more than the oem OR wheels
     
  3. Mar 24, 2023 at 11:36 AM
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    It doesn't matter as the change is minimal, but it is increased.

    The further away a force is from a point the more force on that point. Think of it like a short ratchet vs a breaker bar.
    images_ea079cfe10b9ddd1030c205e082dc76f84cb7fd8.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_action
     
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  4. Mar 24, 2023 at 12:01 PM
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    how much between the two wheels?
     
  5. Mar 24, 2023 at 12:09 PM
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    LOL, No

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    thanks for your honesty
     
  7. Mar 24, 2023 at 1:48 PM
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    True Story: about 20 years ago I ended up drinking with two Ford Engineers in a bar in Lorrain Ohio of all places. And they schooled me on suspension, wheels and tire modifications. I pretty much did not understand 90% of what they were saying - much due to being half drunk not to mention probably having half their IQ. But what stuck with me was that wheel off-set that got too far off from stock was not (you don't have to be exactly the same a few mm either way won't hurt), is not only a safety factor but not good for wear on suspension components like ball joints etc. not to mention impact on handling. There is no way on earth I could begin to explain why but Ford was paying them to know that stuff so I have always kind of followed what they said many years and Bud Lites ago.
     
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  8. Mar 24, 2023 at 3:19 PM
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    i agree with it may not be good if a wheel is sticking way out of the fender from spacers or alot of offset from stock but the statement from BLtheP was telling a newbie that the pro wheel will wear out parts faster than the OR wheel

    alot of members here have added pro wheels and it would be a great benefit for the data to be passed on to everyone
     
  9. Mar 24, 2023 at 7:07 PM
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  10. Mar 24, 2023 at 9:23 PM
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    Put the '21 version pro wheels OEM on my '21 OR.... the offset difference is barely noticeable. Don't see how this could make a real world difference on parts. No rubbing, stock tires.
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  11. Mar 25, 2023 at 8:43 AM
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    Everything done with the truck is more stress on components than the stock truck parked in an airless vault.
    Use common sense or ask someone who has some.
     
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  12. Mar 25, 2023 at 10:20 AM
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    That's your qualifier...your data? 'A lot of members did it'; so, it totally disqualifies his comment?
    I like data too...but you're asking for something and proclaiming something that can not be equally and objectively quantified one way or the other.
    If you claim, that an increase in positive scrub radius(no matter how small) has no ill-effects(no matter how small) or does not require adjustments be made in alignment to compensate...you really don't have the argument you're looking for.
     
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    your reply is a word salad!
    very simple the pro wheel is put on by TOYOTA so why would they put a wheel on that will wear out the ft end?
    the dealer swapped mine with no questions asked
    if they did cause more wear this forum would be lit up
    I have never seen one post about the pro wheel causing more parts wearing out than a OR wheel
     
  14. Mar 25, 2023 at 12:08 PM
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    Toyota sold the TRD Ivan Stewart wheels as an accessory for the 2nd gen if I recall correctly that was a 0 offset wheel. I don't think it was offered as an accessory for the 3rd gen, but 3Gs probably uses the same spec or close to it hubs and components.
     
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  15. Mar 25, 2023 at 1:14 PM
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    You are taking what I said WAY out of context. The original post explicitly asked if the 8mm (actually 12mm (25-13)) offset will cause extra stress on components. I said “it will put a little more stress on components but it’s a stock setup….I wouldn’t worry about it.” Nothing I said isn’t fact. Toyota ships all sorts of setups with different geometries and wheel offsets….doesn’t mean they will all treat the ball joints and wheel bearings the same just because they all came from Toyota.

    Leverage adds wear on components, plain and simple. How much wear is not known, but to say it all works exactly the same because they’re all stock wheels is not true.

    as I already said, it’s a minimal difference overall and likely won’t affect the components of the truck a noticeable amount over the life of the truck. But that’s not what he asked.

    On the flip side, if you bolt on pro wheels in place of sport wheels (13mm offset vs 30mm - but 7” vs 7.5” rims), and go and beat it offroad, you’re more likely to kill a wheel bearing or ball joint with the pro wheels compared to the sport wheels due to the added leverage against the suspension from the wheel change. Again, it may not matter but it absolutely is increased stress, of an unknown quantity.
     
  16. Mar 25, 2023 at 1:18 PM
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    Also, Splitbolt’s reply is not a word salad…what he said is true. If the pro wheel “doesn’t add stress,” then aftermarket 0 offset wheels don’t add stress either. If that were the case, your tire could be 3 feet away from the truck and not add stress.

    The truth is that moving the wheel further out at all adds stress, whether you go to +13mm offset, 0mm offset, or -5000mm offset. How much added stress is unknown and it may not matter in the end for the life of the truck but it’s still added stress. This isn’t anything Toyota doesn’t already know.
     
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    you are saying stuff like you have tested all these wheels so just show me any data or testing that there is ANY, no matter how small, more wear and tear between the OR and PRO wheel.
    your original post might make the new owner OP question his purchase for the pro wheels
    I am not worried about the wheel upgrade but spreading fear with your statement without any facts might worry others
     
  18. Mar 25, 2023 at 2:03 PM
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    It might not be healthy to care that much about what other people do to their own vehicle.
     
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    went right over your head
     

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