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TRD VS URD

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Corndawg, Nov 23, 2012.

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What do you recommend ?

Poll closed Apr 7, 2014.
  1. Stock CAI

    37 vote(s)
    30.1%
  2. TRD CAI

    60 vote(s)
    48.8%
  3. URD CAI

    26 vote(s)
    21.1%
  1. Jan 17, 2013 at 7:13 PM
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    Corndawg

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    so is it worth doing. if i gain nothing?
     
  2. Jan 17, 2013 at 9:37 PM
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    You really don't gain much if anything with a CAI other than quicker throttle response and sound. With the URD MAF Cal it helps a lot, but still it's no super charger.

    Intake, headers, exhaust are worth the money if you ask me, but don't expect a 50hp increase.
     
  3. Jan 18, 2013 at 4:02 AM
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    thanks for the info.

    im really looking into a TRD INtake DTLT headers URD Y pipe and TRD cat back exhaust and then of course URD Maf..

    I just need a place to tune it for me in utah.


    and also i think with the Y pipe and DTLT headers my check engine light will be on always so idk if i want that. or not?
     
  4. Jan 18, 2013 at 4:10 AM
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    AFE stage II intake, APR X1, URD 70mm Throttle Valve (ported and knife edged), NST intake manifold spacer, URD spec U headers, Denso IKH20, URD fuel pump, APR fuel rail, URD Y pipe, Greddy sandwich cooler plate, Earls oil cooler, FJ TRD shocks, Cusco front and rear sway bars, LC Engineering sway bushings, ES rear track rod bushings, Carbotech pads, Stoptech ss brake lines, Stoptech slotted rotors, Limited Grill, Painted hatch cover by me, Painted valve covers by me, Cobra CB, TRD rad and oil cap, Escort 8500, Autometer oil psi and temp gauges, Flexpod, Pioneer 400w speakers.
    with an intake, headers, urd y pipe and tuning (x1) I put down 250 whp and 300 ft lbs. That is effectively the same power netted with just a trd supercharger.

    Out of the two intakes listed I run the AFE intake, but would love to run a URD intake. If you want to go mudding and driver though rivers get the TRD/AFE. If you do light off roading or don't get the URD.
     
  5. Jan 18, 2013 at 5:58 AM
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    Wow. That's pretty impressive, considering you probably have a fraction of the $$ invested that a SC would cost.

    When you mention "tuning" - are you referring to a MAF re calibration, or something like a Unichip?

    (I like your "recipe" and might want to copy it!)
     
  6. Jan 18, 2013 at 6:06 AM
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  7. Jan 20, 2013 at 5:43 PM
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    Thats crazy man.. im looking for more BRaPP!! but is doing Doug Thorley long tube headers TRD CAI/Cat Back and URD Y pipe gonna ruin the life of my engine i want my truck to last. I'm hoping none of them will set off check engine light i think the Y pipe will
    just search TRDGuyKC on youtube he has the set up i want. he is a TW member
     
  8. Jan 20, 2013 at 5:48 PM
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  9. Jan 26, 2013 at 5:36 PM
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    okay so lets say i buy all this.. my only thing is i dont want the check engine light on
     
  10. Feb 1, 2013 at 8:34 PM
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    I see the man snooping.....

    How u doin Gman?
     
  11. Feb 2, 2013 at 9:29 AM
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    Its proven the CAI do not help with these trucks unless you are putting on a super charger.

    In fact you loose HP.

    Exhaust will only help with sound not HP.
     
  12. Feb 2, 2013 at 10:55 AM
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    I've been looking at the N/A gains thread and am surprised how much people are netting from gains. The general opinion on here is that "it is proven that none of the bolt on mods gain you any performance" Well looking at all the dynos in the NA performance threads means that either, you need a few of them instead of just one to gain anything, or you just need a tuner, like a Maf Cal, to get the gain out of those mods.

    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/performance-tuning/229882-n-power-gains-dynos-w-mods.html

    One thing to note is that these guys may get peak gains that are comparable to just the TRD S/C, but I'm sure over the entire power band that the TRD S/C has more power, ie both may have 250hp at 5000rpm but at say 3000 rpm the S/C will have like 240hp and the N/A will have like 200hp. (I just made up those numbers to show my point)
     
  13. Feb 17, 2013 at 7:12 AM
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    And, don't forget you lose about 3% of your HP for every 1000ft above sea level you go. A supercharger keeps that loss to a minimum.

    Anymore, the manufacturers are making some pretty efficient intake and exhaust systems so you get very little HP/Tq increase with CAI, Headers, and exhaust systems. There is no way a few little add on parts are going to compare to a properly installed and tuned supercharger.
     
  14. Jun 25, 2013 at 5:40 PM
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    Actually not necessarily... A supercharger experiences the same losses as a N/A engine at altitude. It compresses the air based on a ratio of how fast the rotors are spinning and the air coming in. Of course a supercharged engine will do better than a N/A engine at altitude most likely by virtue of just more power though. A turbo does much better of mitigating the effects of altitude as it has a set psi to reach. However, it has to spin faster to reach the same psi at higher altitude so some of the power is lost due to heat...

    As for the second part the I/H/E don't do much on a naturally aspirated engine without a proper tune, but they work wonders with the higher compression that comes with a boosted application.
     
  15. Sep 23, 2013 at 5:45 PM
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    I researched the intakes before i bought one, it was a toss up between the URD and the volant with scoop. I went with the volant + scoop, closed box unit and sucks in from the fender and the open scoop replaces the rad shroud. Truck has more pedal response and sounds way better, i don't care what those "anti CAI" people say

    edit: i had a flowmaster 50 series dual exhaust installed before the CAI and the CAI made it sound way better
     
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