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Trying to build a sound system

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by steve o 77, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Aug 20, 2010 at 8:04 PM
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    Alright, so I've really been getting sick of all the static coming from the little fm transmitter I use to play my i pod in the truck. At first I wanted to just get a cheap HU with an aux input but now its turned into a bit more. I want to replace the speakers as well and possibly add an amp to the system.

    Ive been doing a lot of reading today both here and on CT and am still overwhelmed with info. I used crutchfield and the pioneer deal going on on amazon to try and piece together a possible system. I am not entirely sure if any of the things I chose will even work well together so I came here to ask you guys. Please let me know your opinions on my choices. Im just looking for an inexpensive decent system.

    I listen to mostly rock/metal.

    budget is right around $300

    These rear speakers
    http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-TS-G6...KIKX0DER&s=car&ie=UTF8&qid=1282355253&sr=1-40

    This HU.
    http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-DEH-1...DKIKX0DER&s=car&ie=UTF8&qid=1282355295&sr=1-3

    These components for the front. (are components even right for me or will coaxials be just fine)?
    http://www.crutchfield.com/p_130TSA502C/Pioneer-Premier-TS-A502C.html?tp=106&tab=features_and_specs

    This sub down the road, not now as I can't afford it:
    http://www.amazon.com/Boss-BASS1200-10-Inch-Amplified-Subwoofer/dp/B001DXF990

    And an old 400 watt amp we have laying around. I can't find it right now so I cant get all the specs. I dont even know what brand it is lol.

    Thanks for bearing with me! Im a total audio newb.
     
  2. Aug 20, 2010 at 8:35 PM
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    Alright, am I correct that Im going to want an amp with 90 watts RMS or less since the speakers can handle 180 watts max. That just doesnt seem right since all the amps Im seeing are 100 watts RMS and over.:confused:
     
  4. Aug 20, 2010 at 9:52 PM
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    I'm no stereo expert but 90 watts RMS sounds to low. It seems like you would need at least 135 watts. I do know that you'll probably want component speakers and not coaxial. They will sound better.
     
  5. Aug 20, 2010 at 9:55 PM
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    yeah I was going off the rule that you want the speakers to be rated for double the RMS of the amp. Im now thinking your supposed to divide the RMS of the amp by the number of speakers its powering. So do people generally power the rear coaxials with the amp or just the front components?
     
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    honestly, save your money and buy JUST a good HU for now. you'll be surprised at the increase in quality.

    Following that, amp + front components would be a good second step.

    i wouldnt waste your time with the sub you posted though.
     
  7. Aug 20, 2010 at 9:57 PM
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    Ok, good advice. how is the HU I posted?
     
  8. Aug 20, 2010 at 9:59 PM
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    Not the best head unit.
     
  9. Aug 20, 2010 at 10:14 PM
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    I know its not a Pioneer but:

    Eclipse CD5030

    Looking back to the original post I wouldn't recommend your rear speaker selection either. Try to stick with circular speakers. They generally sound better than the oval ones.
     
  11. Aug 20, 2010 at 10:24 PM
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    lol @ the HU Mr. Brown posted being discountinued.

    Eclipse definitely makes some nice units, they have a real cult following.

    I've owned a handful of pioneer decks and never really enjoyed them. Interfaces are quite clunky. Best advice is to hit up a local store and play with a bunch to see which you like best.
     
  12. Aug 20, 2010 at 10:28 PM
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    Alright. The reason I was looking at pioneer is they are having a deal over on Amazon right now. (im sure you knew that already). I may head over to best buy tomorrow and check some out. I also read a lot of good things about the pioneer HU's sound quality over on CT.
     
  13. Aug 20, 2010 at 10:29 PM
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    It's discontinued but still for sale by places other than Crutchfield, and at a decent discount from the original price and, imo a good deal for the OP. I only used Crutchfield because the OP has been using it as a reference.
     
  14. Aug 20, 2010 at 10:30 PM
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    Alright. Ive heard of the round speaker thing but didn't think it was all that important with the rears. I think Im just going to go with a better HU for now and upgrade the rest later. Might as well do it right the first time.
     
  15. Aug 20, 2010 at 10:31 PM
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    Probably a good idea. Check out caraudio.com for people that know alot more about this than I do. Hope I helped though.
     
  16. Aug 20, 2010 at 10:35 PM
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    Maybe best buy will have one. It is definitely a high end HU from what I can tell.
     
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    Thanks for the help.
     
  18. Aug 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM
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    Ugh! Too many choices!

    Im now leaning toward this alpine
    http://www.crutchfield.com/s_500CDE103B/Alpine-CDE-103BT.html?tp=5684
    but the only thing holding me back is the fact that it only has 4 preamp channel outputs. Is this going to be a big deal down the line if I add another amp and sub to the system? It says that you can control weather the rear speakers, or sub get power with the bass control. Does that mean when the sub is powered the rear speakers are not, and visa versa?:confused: Or am I completely wrong here? lol

    Basically what Im asking is if its worth getting the 2 extra outputs on the pioneer even though I love the look of the alpine much more; plus the fact that it actually has hard buttons for the radio presets.
     
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