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TSB Oil Leak Timing cover being fixed

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by fjm0008, Jun 8, 2010.

  1. Jun 8, 2010 at 6:09 PM
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    fjm0008

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    I took my truck in and requested the oil leak be repaired and showed the service manager the printed version. Appt today, took them two hours to call and say it will be covered, 9 hour repair? Four o'clock they call and want to keep it overnight. I requested a loaner car...this is where it gets interesting. He states that they don't do loaners, they have rentals. I said that it is only a rental if I pay for it, it is a loaner if he pays for it. He stated that he will give me a car and submit the bill to Toyota under the TSB/warranty. So I will hopefully get my truck back without any damage from the knuckleheads at the dealer.
     
  2. Jun 8, 2010 at 10:43 PM
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    I have a 2009 with only 20,000 miles. I had the same thing happen to me. I had taken it to the dealer to have the rear leaf spring tsb done and I also had a oil leak that needed to be fixed. I told them that I needed a loaner and they said they don't give loaners for tsb's so I had to rent a car for the day. They called me back about 4 hours later and said that they will need the truck another day to fix the oil leak that was coming from the timing chain cover. They told me that since they had my truck for more than 8 hours that the rental car was for free. It took them 2 full days to do rear tsb and to fix the leaky timing chain cover.
     
  3. Jun 8, 2010 at 11:13 PM
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    My 2005 had the same prob at 93,000 miles and it was still under warranty so I got it fixed for free :)
     
  4. Jun 8, 2010 at 11:41 PM
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    had the same leak at 50k. They gave a crappy rental and I picked my truck up in the am. The nice surprise is that they left a snap on swivel socket in my skid plate, and left the skid plate loose. I took the tool back to the dealer because I make a living with my tools and made them tighten the skid plate. I fear what they do with my truck
     
  5. Jun 9, 2010 at 8:50 AM
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    Can someone post a copy of TSB oil Leak Timining cover?

    Thanks
     
  6. Jun 9, 2010 at 9:06 AM
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    x2 is this for only for 09 and 10
     
  7. Jun 9, 2010 at 9:11 AM
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    I have the same leak on my '06. I think it's for all 05+

    too bad I have 106k miles :(
     
  8. Jun 9, 2010 at 4:21 PM
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    I will get you the number for the TSB, I have it in my office. I found it on this site and now the entire list went somewhere else. Update, the dealer lived up to their knucklehead status, scratched the right rear by hitting it with a door from another car through the paint. The oil leak is fixed so far.
     
  9. Jun 10, 2010 at 6:25 AM
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    Here is the link for the TSB. Good luck.

    Here is an updated T-SB that supersedes TSB No. EG051-07 that now includes 08's T-SB-0326-08.

    T-SB-0326-08.pdf
     
  10. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:54 AM
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    i'm at 77000 miles, i'm confused. it's a tsb, so shouldn't they cover it even if i'm over my 60000 mile warrranty? just like they just covered my spiral cable at 70000 miles?

    mark
     
  11. Oct 31, 2012 at 2:21 AM
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    Spiral cable is a safety issue, making it a recall. Service bulletins are not considered mandatory covered repairs. May be covered under extended warranty, if you have one.
     
  12. Oct 31, 2012 at 2:25 AM
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    nah, just the standard 60000 mile warranty. bummer
     
  13. Oct 31, 2012 at 7:12 AM
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    As mentioned, a recall is for a safety concern, or for a problem that affects regulation laws. A bulletin is actually designed for technicians at the dealer to assist in finding common problems, and common solutions. This improves a dealerships ability to quickly find a problem, repair the vehicle, and return it to the customer. Until the internet became widespread, TSBs were almost unknown to the general public, because they were not intended for public use. Times have changed for this of course, and more people have become more aware and interested in such things. In rare instances some manufacturers will extend the time period and coverage for a TSB, but it is at their discretion, and is not mandated by any laws. Recalls are.

    As for loaners and rentals vehicles, these are not a requirement in all situations. Manufacturers choose what they will allow and what they won't. for example Cadillac has a mandatory rental for anyone whose repair will take more than 4 hours, or will require being kept overnight to perform repairs. Not all the others do the same.

    And yes, it is STILL a rental fjm. It's just a rental that gets paid for by Toyota corporate. A loaner is a vehicle owned and maintained by the dealership, and is at the discretion of the dealership to loan out. So yes, you still got a rental.
     
  14. Dec 9, 2013 at 11:38 AM
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    Yes, I'm out of warranty. Ihave 132,000 mi. on my 2006, Toyota Tacoma, Speedway Blue, with the sameproblem. Toyota has a TSB on this issue, and they are well aware of it. It is amanufacturer defect in the engines between the years 05 - 07, and Toyota nevermade it a recall. They are shady with some of their business practices, and Iam seriously considering never buying one of their products again.

    They refused to help me, along with every other person having this issue (outsideof warranty). I'm sorry, but when it is a manufacturer defect, warranty or not,it should be fixed without a question. Think twice before you get suckered intoanother Tacoma. Love my TACO, but Toyota sure doesn't love me...just my money.

    T-SB-0326-08


    CALL THEM, AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS,SO THEY WILL DO SOMETHING FOR US. IT IS THEIR MISTAKE/MANUFACTURER ERROR ANDTHEY ARE MAKING US PAY FOR THEIR MISTAKE. THEY WANT $1,500 TO DO THE JOB. THISSHOULD HAVE BEEN A RECALL. STAND YOUR GROUND!!!
     
  15. Dec 9, 2013 at 6:03 PM
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    Sucks man. Unless it is a directly safety related problem, they have no responsibility to fix it. They warranted their product for a minimum of 5 years or 60k against defects. The failure either went unnoticed or happened after one of those two events.

    I would get quotes at local reputable non-dealership garages. You are going to pay absolutely top dollar for labor and parts at a dealership, but they have factory trained techs, every diagnostic goody you can immagine and special tools onhand. You may be suprised what a small shop will do the job for.

    I had this repair done under warranty....58,XXX miles or so. I had purchased a 7 year 100,000 extended warranty plan when I bought the truck but it was covered under standard powertrain warranty. This was the second expensive "TSB" job they had done for me, the first being harsh ride/soft springs which I had to get Toyota Care involved in to make things happen. Ever since they have been very good to me. If I buy another Toyota, it will be from them.

    I'm out of warranty now, so if mine leaks again, its on me to fix it...it is what it is.
     
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    Can some post a pic of where I should be looking for said leak?.....warranty is up soon...I want to make sure I don't have this issue
     
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    Too dark for picture. Left side behind water pump is where mine seeped. Look at the whole front side of engine block, timing cover specifically.
     
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    Hence my username...imagine being out in the woods, searching for the Bigfoot, only to have your engine blow due to Toyota's negligence. Serious stuff dudes, serious stuff. It's things like this that stop us from finding...the Bigfoot.
     
  19. Dec 10, 2013 at 12:01 PM
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    bigfoots on the east coast man your wasting your time out there
     
  20. Dec 10, 2013 at 3:48 PM
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    Situation:

    - I'm out of warranty. I have 132,000 miles on my 2006, Toyota Tacoma,Speedway Blue, 4.0 6 CYL.

    - Timing cover is leaking (Which is a problem on ALL 4.0 6 CYL. Engines *Tacoma, FJ Cruiser, Camry, etc*

    Location of Leak:

    - (Look above the Power Steering Pump, on the front side of the engine wall.It is on the passenger side, and will appear to be power steering fluidleaking, but is actually your engine’s oil.)

    General Facts:

    - Toyota has a TSB on this issue, and they are WELL AWARE of it. They have a Toyota Service Bulletin on the matter(T-SB-0326-08). It is a manufacturerdefect in the 4.0 engines. Toyota never made it a recall. They are shadywith some of their business practices, and I am seriously considering neverbuying one of their products again.



    - They WILL NOT FIX THE PROBLEM ifyou are out of warranty and it will cost YOU$1,500 approximately to fix. Not only is your timing cover leaking, so is yourwallet.

    Solution: There is power in numbers. Contact Toyota and demand that they fixyour 4.0 engine for free:

    - Phone: 800-331-4331, M-F 5:00am - 6:00 pm PT / Sat 7:00am - 4:00 pm PT

    - Email: toyota_cares@toyota.com

    *Toyota refused to help me, along with every other person having this issue (outsideof warranty). I'm sorry, but when it is a manufacturer defect, warranty or not,it should be fixed without a question. Think twice before you get suckered intoanother Tacoma (or Toyota). Love my TACO, but Toyota sure doesn't loveme...just my money.

    T-SB-0326-08

    IT IS THEIR MISTAKE AND THEY ARE MAKING US PAY. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A RECALL.STAND YOUR GROUND!!!

     
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