TSS Recall -- New document from Toyota regarding trucks with "Pro" grills or lifts

I got a notification Toyota sent out in the mail.

 

Has anyone been able to pull this patch off to switch out grills and put it back on?

 

I'm surprised to hear that there are different sensors depending on the trim or grill. Would think that the sensors are all the same.

 

I also thought it was a useless system until about a month into owning it. I was just leaving town after work (cars are parallel parked along the roadway when all of a sudden this bicyclist darts out from between 2 parked cars and the TSS reacted and stopped the truck in time. I firmly believe that at my age (67) my reaction time would not have been sufficient to avoid a collision but TSS did its' job.

 

I agree, adaptive cruise is the shit. It would be hard to go back to a vehicle without it.

 

From what my service manager friend has told me, if I am understanding correctly, not only are their different sensors, but different computers (computer components) for each trim levels TSS or at least Pro vs. other trims.

 

Absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've heard.. So if your truck doesn't look exactly how it did when it rolled off the showroom floor, they're going to disable major features that you paid for, and go so far as to put a sticker on the dashboard?

This all stems from the unintended acceleration scandal a decade ago.. Many cases were dubious at best. Some had to do with idiots stacking floormats, others were people who wrecked their cars and wanted a payout. Since then Toyota has been the weeniest, most cover-your-ass company imaginable. I saw this coming a mile off when I bought my truck and discovered it had TSS. Especially the first time it started malfunctioning and began accelerating aggressively toward a slow car on the freeway. Only a matter of time before someone buries a Camry into the back of another car and blames the radar cruise instead of their poor driving.

What's even better is how every Toyota dealership has always had a brand-new Tacoma out front on Kings and 35's, and sometimes even with a Pro grille. Do those get special treatment? Or are the suckers who bought them just as screwed?

/rant

Honestly dude, from what I've heard there are still dealerships out there who won't care. Whatever you do, don't let them disable the system.

 

There's not.

Same part number for the sensor itself it's the programming that is supposedly different.

The sealer has two different part numbers:

For the Pro Grill - 88278-0C020

For all other grills - 88278-0C010

 

We can just ignore them and enjoy our watertight 3rd brake lights, power rear windows, non-leaking diffs, and updated transmissions
Oh and radar cruise.

 

My TSS has literally been flawless without issues even with a lift. Haters gonna hate.

 

I think you can turn it back on if disabled? Wish we could get a definitive answer on this.

 

We have power rear windows (which I thought was dumb until I was backing a trailer and wanted to talk with my spotter behind the truck)

My 3rd light is solid so far... 2 Oregon winters later.
No diff leak here.
My transmission doesn't need an update, just a baddass to keep shifting it.

I'm a little jealous of radar cruise, I'll admit....but to me it's not worth having a nanny on board.

 

Touche. Guess this was aimed at the 2016 crowd. Really it's not so much a nanny as it is a safety feature. I've never rear-ended anyone and I consider myself to be an excellent driver (don't we all), but accidents happen. If this saves my bacon one day, hey.

 

Exactly. IDK why people say "nanny". It's added safety, and the best part? IT CAN BE DISABLED. They like to forget that little aspect. The only negative I have heard about is some dealerships early-on didn't install lifts as it can affect it.

 

The dealer I purchased from straight-up told me it can never be lifted, unless I bring it back to them for a re-calibration.

 

I just bought mine lifted, so I'm wondering if they re-calibrated my sensor after the lift. I was hpoing when I change t the Por Grill and the sensor moves down an inch or 2 it would be in almost a similar location without the lift and there would be no issues.

 

I don't know how I feel about this. One the one side @Norsemanvike makes a good point about it being a cheesy fix, etc. On the other hand, I use my TSS almost daily on the highway. If any collision happens, I don't want the other driver's insurance to take advantage of the fact that I did not go to Toyota to get the fix done. Sounds like a one in a million chance of happening, but I can say with some certainty that the other driver's insurance will look into every modification you did to your truck if they can pin you for being at fault.

That being said, I'm not going for the Pro grill. Everyone has it. I'm just going to get an SR surround and stick with my TRD OR grill. I like that look better anyhow.

 

100% this.

I use it daily. If anyone uses theirs, it seems like a no-brainer to CYA and get the recall done by Toyota. Everyone is paying less and less attention when driving, if I rear end someone for some reason, I don't want to be on the hook for damages because I didn't take Toyota's documented, official fix.

I realize the fix is stupid and can be done at home. Its the documentation that will matter when you need it most...

 

If you rear end someone , with or without the Toyota fix, tss functioning as desired or not it will still be your fault. It’s only when your truck brakes suddenly due to faulty tss and someone rear ended you can you argue that Toyota was responsible because it was beyond your control if you haven’t modified your truck. I think that’s what this is all about. And this was made apparent by what Toyota said in regard to modified trucks.