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TSS Recall -- New document from Toyota regarding trucks with "Pro" grills or lifts

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Arrieta578, May 7, 2019.

  1. May 10, 2019 at 2:21 PM
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    hazey

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    I just bought mine lifted, so I'm wondering if they re-calibrated my sensor after the lift. I was hpoing when I change t the Por Grill and the sensor moves down an inch or 2 it would be in almost a similar location without the lift and there would be no issues.
     
  2. May 10, 2019 at 2:51 PM
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    I don't know how I feel about this. One the one side @Norsemanvike makes a good point about it being a cheesy fix, etc. On the other hand, I use my TSS almost daily on the highway. If any collision happens, I don't want the other driver's insurance to take advantage of the fact that I did not go to Toyota to get the fix done. Sounds like a one in a million chance of happening, but I can say with some certainty that the other driver's insurance will look into every modification you did to your truck if they can pin you for being at fault.

    That being said, I'm not going for the Pro grill. Everyone has it. I'm just going to get an SR surround and stick with my TRD OR grill. I like that look better anyhow.
     
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  3. May 10, 2019 at 2:55 PM
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    100% this.

    I use it daily. If anyone uses theirs, it seems like a no-brainer to CYA and get the recall done by Toyota. Everyone is paying less and less attention when driving, if I rear end someone for some reason, I don't want to be on the hook for damages because I didn't take Toyota's documented, official fix.

    I realize the fix is stupid and can be done at home. Its the documentation that will matter when you need it most...
     
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  4. May 10, 2019 at 3:13 PM
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    If you rear end someone , with or without the Toyota fix, tss functioning as desired or not it will still be your fault. It’s only when your truck brakes suddenly due to faulty tss and someone rear ended you can you argue that Toyota was responsible because it was beyond your control if you haven’t modified your truck. I think that’s what this is all about. And this was made apparent by what Toyota said in regard to modified trucks.
     
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  5. May 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM
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    Yeah I know that when you rear end someone, the overwhelming majority of times it is your fault. But there are some instances when it can be equal liability or liability of the braking driver if there was no reason to brake. At speed, even if you are not tailgating, you can hit someone in the back if they emergency brake. That instance is rare.

    You are absolutely right, your case is the more likely scenario. Either way, I'm not going to put my liability on the table unless I have to. And getting this Toyota fix seems like an easy task without many downsides (I don't want a Pro grill anyway).
     
  6. May 10, 2019 at 4:07 PM
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    That is what I'd like to know too. It seems to me that if they can turn it off, then one should be able to turn it back on! Look at my profile pic, and you can see that I have a TRD Sport with the TRD Pro grill that I switched out. The only thing I have noticed since swapping it, was every once in a while, the PCS light will come on in the dash, saying the PCS system is off. It stays lit until I turn off the ignition and turn it back on again. this has happened about half a dozen times or so since i swapped grills. I am assuming it is something that will take care of itself with the sensor system "learning" about the different sensor cover that is on the TRD grill. In any case, "Robmotive" on Youtube, just posted a great video about this very thing, a couple of days ago. The guy does a great job with his videos, so I highly recommend you check it out, as it will be very helpful. Here it is:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FhZ9_mE984
     
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  7. May 10, 2019 at 5:05 PM
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    I asked my dealer this morning how much a bug deflector was when I was in grabbing a touch up pen. He said because mine is a 2018 they don’t make a bug deflector for it because of the sensor..... meanwhile there were 3 new ones on the lot with bug deflectors.
     
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  8. May 11, 2019 at 2:21 AM
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    I dont see how a bug deflector has a ythi g to do with the tss sensor.
     
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  9. May 11, 2019 at 2:56 AM
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    It doesn’t, I just kind of said hmm and left.
     
  10. May 11, 2019 at 4:51 AM
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    I don't know if you were referring to a bug deflector or a hood protector, but I am guessing a bug deflector. In that case, I put one on my new 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport. It will fit on the 2018 as well. It was incredibly easy to install, in less than 5 minutes, and I just think it looks insanely cool! Check out my profile pic and you will see it. But here is the direct link to order one for yourself!
    Hood deflector
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018AIGTGC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     
  11. May 11, 2019 at 4:53 AM
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    Any impact on mpg?
     
  12. May 11, 2019 at 4:59 AM
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    If so, it is negligible. It barely sticks up, and pretty much hugs the curves of the hood. It is not like some of those out there for other makes, that actually "stick up" in the air, in which case, I could definitely see an effect on mpg on a trip. around town though, certainly nothing would be noticeable.
     
  13. May 11, 2019 at 8:08 AM
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    Everyone keeps talking about the fix and weather they like it on not.

    Where is this big ass sticker that supposedly goes on the dash? That’s what I wanna see.
     
  14. May 11, 2019 at 8:20 AM
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    They make recommend you do, but II can't imagine they would make you put a sticker on your dash. It's all documented on the back end anyways. If it wasn't and Toyota was that stupid, someone could easily take the sticker off and then say the dealer is liable because they did it.

    I think a big question is if you put the recall patch on, does this make your grill not modifiable moving forward?
     
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  15. May 12, 2019 at 5:34 AM
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    I just had this recall completed Friday on my 2018 in New Castle, PA. After lifting the truck last summer, the TSS malfunction message was on consistently. Dealer claimed it was my fault and there was nothing I could do other than remove my lift and tires...go figure . So obviously I said screw it and dealt with it for almost a year.

    After the recall service Friday, the light/message has been off ever since. Not sure what they did but it’s not on any more. I did however have to sign the “waiver” from Toyota stating my truck is modified and the sensor has been permanently disabled. The Tech was courteous and put the sticker in my manual rather than on my dash.
     
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  16. May 12, 2019 at 7:04 AM
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    So it's just a sticker on the back side of the sensor? As for documentation, I like how every "inspection" that's done is pencil whipped. I've been running a little larger MT tire with more psi but they've been writing what's posted on the door sill. This tells me how much I should trust the techs.
     
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  17. May 14, 2019 at 10:00 AM
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    I got my 2018 OR back Friday. I was told "your truck is a bit of a special case, but it's all done. They sealed the sensor and flashed the computer." When I pressed the service manager about it, she had no clue what was re-flashed, then retreated to "re-calibrated." It looks like the dealer never took the sensor off my truck, so I can't tell what was sealed up. No foam or anything was put over the back of the sensor, and I didn't have to sign anything.

    I see some had a piece installed behind the sensor, others have the pen lashing. For those with a Pro, what did your update include?
     
  18. May 14, 2019 at 10:53 AM
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    They had me sign that waiver after performing the TSB. Whichbwas nothing more then some foam/plastic on the back of the sensor to prevent water intrusion
     
  19. May 14, 2019 at 7:36 PM
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    I hope this helps someone here. I live in Salt Lake City, UT and took my truck in for service a few weeks ago. I was informed of the SSC on my truck and was told they would order the parts. I scheduled my appointment and then saw this thread on TW. I was interested because I have changed my grille to the pro style grille. I took it in today and the SSC was done. They didn’t require any waiver to be signed. So if you are worried about signing a waiver and are in the Salt Lake area, check out Karl Malone Toyota in Draper. Same band-aid fix, but no questions asked or waivers signed.
     
  20. May 14, 2019 at 7:53 PM
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    I think the issue is specific to pro style grills AND a lift both present. Either a lift OR a pro grill has not been an issue
     
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