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Tundra Brakes

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Floridagulfcoasttaco, Dec 17, 2017.

  1. Dec 17, 2017 at 3:51 PM
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    Im gonna cross post and try this again since no one seemed to know when I posted in the tire section.

    Just got some SCS stealth 6s 16x8 3.50 backspacing on my 99 sr5 Tacoma. The next thing I’m planning on doing is the tundra brake upgrade specifically this kit $324 FRONT Powder Coated Red [2] Calipers + [2] Rotors + Quiet Low Dust [4] Ceramic Pads Performance Kit. My main concern is will I still be able to fit my rims on with the larger caliper. Any one with stealth 6s and tundra brake mod that can answer this for me ? Or has anyone used this exact kit ? if so how is it?

    Heres my truck with the new rims and tires before I headed to the track this morning.
     
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  2. Dec 17, 2017 at 4:17 PM
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    Just as long as you have 16 inch or larger rims it should fit. @mechanicjon has a paper template you can print out to test if it'll fit.

    Here's my Tundra setup under 2017 TRD Off Road 16" wheels. You will have to trim the dust shield a little to fit the larger calipers, otherwise it's all bolt on. I think you might have to drill out the stock banjo bolt if you're keeping the stock brake lines, otherwise I'd buy the aftermarket steel brake lines from LC Engineering or Wheelers off road.

    I have the LC Engineering brake lines because unlike the wheeler's kit, they send you the stock Tundra brake line setup which is a hard brake line with a flared end instead of a banjo fitting like the wheeler's Setup. Both are good kits but LCE's kit matches the stock Tundra lines.

    I have the same calipers and brake pads from the kit you linked, but upgraded Baer Sport Performance Rotors.

    IMG_5117.jpg IMG_5113.jpg IMG_5817.jpg

    Here how the stock Tundra brake lines look like: (note the hard brake lines)

    IMG_5009.jpg

    And the stock Tacoma banjo bolt brake lines:

    IMG_5133.jpg
     
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  3. Dec 17, 2017 at 4:43 PM
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    Ive read in some post that say as longs you have 16s it will clear and then other post that some 16 rims will not clear the tundra brakes so I'm just trying to confirm before spending a couple hundred on something that may not fit. I was originally just going to go with the whole Lce kit but I think there kit uses the 13e (191mm) instead of the 13L?(231mm) calipers. So are those calipers in that kit also the ones on your truck the 231mm calipers? I was originally planning on just using the wheelers kit for the brake lines since there significantly cheaper do you think the Lce kit with the tundra hard lines worth it? is the wheelers line kit still all bolt up ?
    Thanks for the help
     
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    I used their S13E kit and it fit fine. The brake lines are the same on both S13 and 13WL - the only difference is the caliper size.
     
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    And to answer you question, yes. I strongly believe the LCE brake kit is worth it. Not only do you get the entire Tundra stock brake line setup with OEM Toyota hard lines, brackets, and hardware - you also get their stainless steel braided front and rear brake lines with added 3 or 6 inch lengths for free to accommodate lifts. I got the 3" extended lines for a future lift.
     
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    Some older 16s won't work without a little help. For example, I plan on running 16x8 80 series LC wheels. They don't clear the 13WL/WG caliper. One option it to machine the back of the rim. Another is to run a 1/4" spacer, which is what I'm going to do.

    With your 3.5 BS, I'd think those rims would be fine.

    Scroll way down. There's some rim info.
     
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    This was the thread that made me question the “all 16s work” that I see everywhere. I see that there is 16” SCS f5s on there under the will fit list but I just wonder how different my stealth 6s are.
    I guess brakes are something you don’t want to really cheap out on anyway. I think I’m gonna end up with that Amazon kit with the 13L calipers and the Lce line kit 3” inch also for 5100s in the front that will be coming. Just really wanting more stopping power since adding bigger heavier tires and hoping it will fix my very slight pulsating in the steering wheel.
     
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    When you figure out what rims you'll get for this upgrade, take a look at this video my buddy Sean and I made for this job.
    https://youtu.be/P8zy-j4UBUo
     
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    You make the best videos, Tim. Your content has saved me more times than I could imagine.
     
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    Stealth6's fit the Tundra calipers just fine (I've got both). In fact, all of the SCS wheels do. Was part of the development process as I understand it.

    Edit: A comment on the kit you're planning - I considered the same, and ended up going with OEM rotors and pads, and Napa remaned calipers due to quality differences. Wrote it up here: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...d-and-adventures.484602/page-10#post-16331518
     
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    Awesome good to know I shouldn’t have any fitment issues. The more I look and read around it does seem like the best option is to piece together a quality kit myself. How are the Napa reman calipers treating you ? I think I’m gonna go with them and these https://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-USR7158-Sport-Slotted/dp/B001C95828
    Rotors. I think EBC puts out a pretty quality product. Or do you think it would
    Be best for me to just stick with oem rotors also ?
     
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    Personally, I wanted to stick OEM for the quality. Here's the difference in castings between Napa (left) and OEM (right). I suspect that most non-OEM are like Napa. Will it matter? I have no idea, but I didn't want to risk it in the brake department.

    I found similar with brake pads - note how the OEM ones have a much larger surface area for contact, since the edges haven't been "beveled."

    [​IMG]

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    This may sound stupid but this is why I ask. When you say oem are you meaning that you got them directly from Toyota or a Toyota dealer ? Because aren’t say these calipers considered oem but just from Napa up to oem standards ?https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/SEBSE3263

    Stupid question I know



    Like your saying I don’t want to cheap out on brake products at all. I’m trying to make decisions on what stuff I should get and what will work the best. Do you think I should just get everything directly from Toyota ? I feel as if that will be astronomically expensive.
     
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    OEM = original equipment manufacturer. Aftermarket parts 'manufactured to OEM spec' rarely are. Unless it's something from a known performance company, like the EBC rotors you linked. Those are obviously good quality.
     
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    I bought mine directly from a Toyota dealer.
     
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    The napa rebuilt calipers are good quality remans. Akobond pads are full size like the OEM Toyota ones.
     
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    I think I'm going to go through with the EBC rotors of some kind I think there a quality company, but hey I could be wrong . Ill go ahead and open up another can of worms, whats everyones thoughts on OE flat rotors vs. say those slotted ones above or high carbon ones (there the same price as the slotted). Im no racetruck by any means but I do tow around either my river boat or heavier 18 foot flats boat including across the state occasionally plus the now larger heavier tires.
     
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    Good to know. How about the calipers any luck with them?
     
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