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Turbo BS Thread

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Clay_916, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. Mar 10, 2018 at 5:38 PM
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    It’s referenced one of the three ports on the throttle body
     
  2. Mar 10, 2018 at 7:08 PM
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    Does the FPR see vacuum? It shouldn't.
     
  3. Mar 10, 2018 at 7:14 PM
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    I don’t think those TB ports see vac. I hooked up my boost to all of them and none of the read vac. Only got a reading once the motor went into boost.

    On another note. I currently have mine hooked up so it sees both vac and boost. The vac signal helps to trim the fuel of the larger injectors at idle. I have had no issues with how it runs. I still need to post a screen shot of my FT’s with the 440’s and stock ecu. I keep forgetting
     
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  4. Mar 10, 2018 at 7:42 PM
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    If you're on stock ECU, yeah that probably does help lower fuel pressure and trims. And before I knew better, I ran FPR hooked to vacuum and boost on the 5vz for over a year and it ran fine...

    @Jstand does your fuel pressure rise as you give it more throttle? (indicating low voltage((failing alternator?)) or FRP hooked to vacuum source)
     
  5. Mar 10, 2018 at 8:31 PM
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    It falls drops to 20psi with more throttle
     
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  6. Mar 10, 2018 at 8:50 PM
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    I wondered though if it was voltage related but if that would cause the pressure to raise with more throttle then that’s out.
     
  7. Mar 11, 2018 at 12:21 PM
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    Would something electrical cause a steady fuel pressure drop ?
     
  8. Mar 11, 2018 at 5:41 PM
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    Steady in what way? Like, steady drop at idle, or steady drop when adding throttle input?
     
  9. Mar 11, 2018 at 6:45 PM
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    If you remove the vacuum hose to the FPR, and cap/plug the ends, what does the fuel pressure read?
     
  10. Mar 11, 2018 at 7:10 PM
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    It just stays in one place at idle. When you put throttle and let off it drops at least 5 psi then back to when it’s idling
     
  11. Mar 11, 2018 at 7:11 PM
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    I’ll check this tomorrow and get back with you but I don’t think it will change because it’s boost referenced no vac at idle
     
  12. Mar 11, 2018 at 7:14 PM
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    I wonder if you have crap in your fuel lines. This has been going on for a while, and the changes you have made have made no difference
     
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    Also put a voltmeter on your battery while running and verify you get 14+ volts
     
  14. Mar 12, 2018 at 4:30 AM
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    I thought you were supposed to reference the FPR directly to as close to the snail as possible?
     
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    I believe this is where some of the problem lies. Like being in the middle of a magnetic field and trying to use a compass.
     
  16. Mar 12, 2018 at 5:14 AM
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    No. Post throttle body for a vacuum/non vacuum or boost reference, or pre throttle body for the Venturi or whatever it’s called method of regulation.

    With boost, it needs to be Post throttle body. NOT throttle body.

    Post throttle body means that it is raising the fuel pressure for the amount of actual boost the intake manifold is getting. Not what is coming out of the turbo, as there could be a psi drop from turbo to intake manifold.
     
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    So at least a new muffler. Sounds good. Is that all, or anything else?
     
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    OK I'll put a volt meter to check for 14v. I wish it weren't so but I've been running it with the FPR in this same spot when the pressure was 45-50 psi since the beginning. I want it to be in the correct spot so I will move it.
     
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    Just the muffler, for now.
     
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