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Turbo BS Thread

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Clay_916, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. Feb 10, 2021 at 8:34 PM
    Sleipnir

    Sleipnir Still havent found that stupid snipe

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    So the reason why the tune seems a little off and the reason the turbos were on all waste gates spring was because the truck had a lot of issues when I got it back after a year of waiting for the install to be done. I was constantly chasing problem after problem and I was about to give up on the truck when I sent it to the engine builder who gave it a once over. Which took another year and where we are at now.

    Now that the annoying mechanical backstory is out of the way I can explain the tuning. We couldn't nail down the tune to save our lives. We were chasing boost spikes of over 24psi when making small adjustments over the course 5 revisions, 3 datalog files and two months later. We literally backed everything off to the tune you see now but with a ton of issues so the datalog numbers were worse. The torque tables were below stock and we just wanted to make a tune that we could get a baseline off of. Now that the truck is mechanically sound it's holding the boost and is very controllable. When the tuner said "I don't want to see anything over 22psi" and I reported it held 15psi we were more excited than upset because that means the tune and truck are working way better.

    The Ford ECU has a ton of things it can monitor and the Ecoboost has two out of four O2's that can read afr and can see it from my X4. There's a ton of data you can monitor. Makes tuning awesome.

    I actually asked about injector duty cycle too because I thought column N was logging that. The full column name is Fuel pump duty cycle. Unfortunately it wasn't and the explanation I got was They are regulated mechanical returnless pumps. This means it runs to 100% (.50 dc) flow and hits the regulator where the the excess fuel returns to the tank. This all happens in tank. Its almost like a return system.

    What you really are going to want to see is the new datalog data. That will tell you weather the truck is going to be a heart breaker
     
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  2. Feb 10, 2021 at 8:39 PM
    Sleipnir

    Sleipnir Still havent found that stupid snipe

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    I love old the 00's era lighting myself. Something about them reminds me of my childhood and watching fast and furious in the theaters :rofl:

    But same could be said for kids 10 years later and the tremor. That's a truck I wish I had this setup in. Damn that'd be a car magazine truck:drool:
     
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  3. Feb 11, 2021 at 4:31 AM
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    Brake Weight But it hasn't rained in weeks...I'll make it.

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    @Sleipnir

    Well, sounds like y’all two are on the right path finally. I’m excited to see this thing putting down 6-700 hearse-pers. Then that v8 swap is up and running. That 4bt swap is kinda stalled right now though.

    Plus side personally, I have an interview today for a job again and it happens to be with an old bossman. So it’s just a formality. Weather won’t break long enough for me to get my new clutch in my VDub but I can’t afford the retune just yet anyway. Get that squared away and I should be looking at +/-420hp. Prez and fuel prices pending....In looking at tackling a possible VW TDI (ALH) this spring for a work commuter. Trying to source one in a wagon layout or if I’m feeling brave maybe a swap if I can nail it down in less than a month.
     
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  4. Feb 11, 2021 at 4:35 AM
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    Yes. Yes.
     
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  5. Feb 11, 2021 at 4:41 AM
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    I heard swap.....

    That's good to hear on the job!
     
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  6. Feb 11, 2021 at 6:36 AM
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    Right!?!! I’ve been doing some reading and contemplating a VW swap since I’m familiar with the in/outs more than Toyota tuning. 1.9 TDI or possibly another 1.8t gasser. I’ve found adaptor plates back to my w59 for either and both put up better numbers than my 3rz. If I can score motor mounts and trans plate I can also score a motor, harness, and ECU from salvage. It’s the install that worries me since it’d be just me in my garage.
     
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  7. Feb 11, 2021 at 6:55 AM
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    Got a welder and a bandsaw or cutoff wheel? If so, it's doable.
     
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  8. Feb 11, 2021 at 2:49 PM
    Sleipnir

    Sleipnir Still havent found that stupid snipe

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    Well I managed to make my adjustments myself and confident enough to pay for a test print. I adjusted the mount to fit one of these tablets. Should be the perfect datalog setup. Also angled the mount 17.3* which should be perfect for the drivers view. I need to order the tablet still and see if it fits. Should be about a week and a half before it’s here.


    Whatcha guys think?


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  9. Feb 11, 2021 at 6:07 PM
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    Maybe just a universal tablet mount for it?
     
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  10. Feb 11, 2021 at 6:14 PM
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    Sleipnir Still havent found that stupid snipe

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    Only way that would work is to use maybe adapter blocks or a drop in inset. Either way it’d be made of the same PETG material
     
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    Holy crap it's finally on its way. I can't wait to set this thing in the engine bay and just drool. 2F5F041C-223C-4729-B9FD-BE999AB9BD3D.jpg
     
  12. Feb 23, 2021 at 7:49 AM
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    Woot woot!
     
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  13. Feb 24, 2021 at 4:49 AM
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    Heatshield Products .
     
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  15. Feb 24, 2021 at 7:19 AM
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  16. Feb 24, 2021 at 9:25 AM
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  17. Feb 24, 2021 at 10:55 AM
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  18. Feb 24, 2021 at 11:44 AM
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    Naw she ain't getting gold maybe bronze or silver lol.
     
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  19. Feb 24, 2021 at 7:42 PM
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    What AFRs is everyone shooting for in boost?

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    looking for IFC-6 Tunes
    But I take others
     
  20. Feb 24, 2021 at 8:12 PM
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    Not so much the pressure but the Throttle input. Part throttle doesn't need as much as Wot. 11.8 afr is generally pretty good. Leaner is meaner, richer is safer. Too lean and you melt a piston, too rich and you wash the rings. Its a balanced act.
     
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