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Turbo BS Thread

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Clay_916, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. Aug 20, 2023 at 1:36 PM
    Torspd

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    Still haven't swapped this out yet?
     
  2. Aug 20, 2023 at 1:42 PM
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    Putting in some work on this contraption.

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  3. Aug 20, 2023 at 2:23 PM
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    Negative, especially with front end noises. Lots of other life things going on so truck gets back burner. It'll happen soon enough though.

    New manifold looks cool!
     
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  4. Aug 20, 2023 at 6:57 PM
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    I hear that! The older we get, time goes by much more quickly.
     
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  5. Aug 21, 2023 at 7:10 PM
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    I was able to swap the .82 on today. Definitely noticed more response right off the bat.

    Here is a quick pull in 3rd with the 1.03.
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    Then here is the .82 with a similar run.
    Screenshot_20230821-183337_Gallery.jpg

    You can see it makes peak psi sooner since the trace line is lower on the rpm axis. What you can't see is how quick it makes 6 psi since there are no rows there. It also faded boost a hair after peak psi, I'm wondering if the extra back pressure is pushing the gate open. Or just a fluke.

    Either way, happy with it!
     
  6. Aug 22, 2023 at 7:02 AM
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    At least 500 rpms sooner. Already at 8 by 3k rpms. That thing picks up much more quickly!
     
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  7. Aug 22, 2023 at 7:04 AM
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    It's less Tacoma and more mod
    Are you using a 3-port or 4-port boost solenoid? Mine has been really good about getting to and staying at target at 11psi but I don't think it would be able to hold the gate shut without pressure to the top.
     
  8. Aug 22, 2023 at 8:06 AM
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    It's the 3 port. Using it on the bottom port to bleed signal. I know I could go to top port and get a little more, just wanted back to back results with only one variable. I'm not using closed loop control yet, I know that will work well to hold a certain number.
     
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  9. Aug 22, 2023 at 4:28 PM
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    Figured I would keep playing and switched to using the Top port boost control style.

    Used the same settings to start but knowing I would have to change them.Screenshot_20230822-161207_Gallery.jpg

    Very spooly and over shot.
    I kept pulling gain and it kept doing the same thing basically. Started to think I hooked it up wrong. Then I zeroed to map to see if that helped.
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    Much slower spool and settled out at 8 psi. I'll goof with gain and see what I can dial in for spool.
     
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  10. Aug 22, 2023 at 5:47 PM
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    Learning process for sure. I had the similar issue setting up my boost controller on the Haltech. Kept over boosting, and boost cut safety would kick in. Ugh. Did not like that feeling.

    You'll get it soon enough.
     
  11. Aug 27, 2023 at 1:52 PM
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    Question on 2GR-FKS tuning... In stock form, the Atkinson cycle is only active at low to mid RPM under light load. Is anyone tuning these where Atkinson is active under high load to reduce compression?
     
  12. Aug 27, 2023 at 5:15 PM
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    Good question. On the little VW/Audi 1.8t inline4 the VVt is solely used on cold start to help heat cat and overall lower emissions. It is purely a variable cam timing where a solenoid adds or removes timing between the intake/exhaust cams. Doesn’t not add open/close durations. Eventually tuners figured out how to harness some use from this and noted earlier spoolup/onset boost RPMs. Shorten the intake and lengthen the exhaust to get less recirculated gasses and more compression while sending more gasses through the turbo to get more spool. More gas, more air, for more power…but only minimal.
     
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  13. Aug 29, 2023 at 1:12 PM
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    All done! :woot:

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    I was thinking less about getting the turbo to spool quicker and more about reducing the 11.8:1 compression.
     
  15. Aug 29, 2023 at 2:44 PM
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    Why would you want lower compression? Are there any thicker head gaskets out there for the 2gr specifically for lowering compression? Looks like Cometic offers a .051” and a .027” for the 2gr. Don’t know how big a difference or what yours even has. Being its got truck duty it is likely the .027”.
     
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    Very nice @Torspd! I'm assuming Efr with internal gate?
     
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    Very nice indeed. Maybe I'll convince my sister she needs to turbo her 1GR
     
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    Yes sir. Made this one to place the turbo exactly where it used to sit with the older manifold.

    I can make that happen. :D
     
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    curious on folks' boosted MPGs.

    I'm running 10 psi with a SC 3rz 4cyl w/ Haltech management on shitty 91 octane Cali gas. 4.88 gears on 35's and getting like 230 or so per tank at best highway only. About 12 mpg at best.
    Worst with combined city driving and about 7mpg on the trail :rofl:
     
  20. Aug 30, 2023 at 3:17 PM
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    Speedometer is calibrated?
     

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