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Ultimate Overland Tacoma build list

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by harrytasker, Dec 13, 2022.

  1. Dec 13, 2022 at 7:09 PM
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    harrytasker

    harrytasker [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I haven't divulged everything about this or why I am building it
    I intend to film the progress. I want to actually do the gears and lockers first. Then body armor and camper. Then suspension and tires last. I haven't decided if I would just go to camburg, or see if accutune could give a more refined tune.
     
  2. Dec 13, 2022 at 7:11 PM
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  3. Dec 13, 2022 at 7:14 PM
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    It’s a dog stock, it will be painfully slow with the added weight you’re talking about strapping in.

    Change up your order of mods. Gears, lockers, and suspension should all come before armor and camper. Prep the truck to handle the weight of what you want to put on it before you put the weight on it.
     
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  4. Dec 13, 2022 at 7:20 PM
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    Missing a lot of little things that add up. For someone who has gone off the deep end as far as modifications on a Tacoma, to each their own. I like the fact that you're using a Skinny Guy camper. Super good stuff.

    You need some hammer hangers out back at the least and some good bumps. All that money up front and you need a good rear setup too. Maybe a shock relocation too.

    Wiring, switches, lights, seemingly minimal stuff adds up to be several thousand more dollars. A good switch pro setup, with everything needed is roughly $1k. A good light bar, some good fog lights, ditch lights, camp lights, another $2k.

    Winch, bumpers, skid plates, sliders....this adds up fast too. For instance, my armor is RCI full aluminum skids, SSO front bumper, ATH standard rear bumper, Greenlane aluminum sliders, Smittybilt Gen3 X20 winch, boom $6k. Plus you need some recovery gear as well, couple straps, soft shackles, snatch block, boom $500.

    Powerbrake setup is nice, I'd make sure Stage 2 will fit under a 17" wheel. I have the Stage 1 with upgraded pads, fit under 17" wheels fine but I thought the stage2 required 18's.

    Tons of other stuff needs touched before it's well setup. All the cheap $100 stuff that just keeps coming and coming.
     
  5. Dec 13, 2022 at 7:40 PM
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    Probably not the advice you're looking for but in my opinion if you feel the need to modify a brand new vehicle that extensively, you're starting with the wrong vehicle.

    If you need all of that because you legitimately wheel it hard enough to use it, you'd be better off starting with a Rubicon or power wagon. If you're just trying to monetize the experience, then it really doesn't matter how well it all performs together. Throw all the most expensive shit on it and start posting staged photos.
     
  6. Dec 13, 2022 at 8:23 PM
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    Time to pack it up hiPSI. You have been incinerated. :rofl::rofl:
     
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  7. Dec 13, 2022 at 8:24 PM
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    Also what the hell is this?

    Skinny Guy: SKIN 'N BONES PACKAGE $15,501.00


    Nevermind. It’s a shell with a RTT and very obnoxious marketing.
     
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  8. Dec 13, 2022 at 8:34 PM
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    You forgot magnuson supercharger and yotawerx Stryker tune
     
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  9. Dec 13, 2022 at 10:38 PM
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    Camper and armor come before suspension, so you are buying the right springs and tuning the shocks for the weight distribution.
     
  10. Dec 13, 2022 at 11:21 PM
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    Personally I'd step back and ask yourself "What is the purpose of this truck?". Any parts you install or the coin you spend should be moving the needle towards the vision you have for that vehicle. Aftermarket modifications are going to come with tradeoffs, so you need to know what end result you want before you can evaluate if those tradeoffs are worth it and fulfil that vision. I built an excel spreadsheet to help me track my payload budget and costs so I could see at-a-glance the impacts and make sure that I felt comfortable with the final numbers and the result.

    For me, my vision for my rig is a daily driver that I can prep in an afternoon for a 3-4 day trip. Eventually, the rig needs to become a fully capable support truck/prerunner for a Class 11 baja bug. So, in my decision making process, I buy equipment to fulfil the end goal while still trying to balance my immediate needs (ie. still need to get to work). I guess I also am trying to preserve as much factory functionality as possible, or as I like to say "I'm building a Tacoma the way Toyota wished they could, but the EPA and Marketing said they couldn't".

    So, once you know what your truck's purpose in life is, then you can get to work determining components. And, you'll know the right questions to ask. In my opinion, the first thing to figure out is the size of tires you want to run. You settled on some 34's, so the next question to ask is "what do I need to do to fit those tires?". You're on the right track thinking a suspension lift, but the Pro already comes with one. From my own journey, looks like anything larger than a 33" will require a CMC (cab mount chop) or CMR (cab mount relocation). For me personally, if I wanted to run larger than 33's I would opt for the cab mount relocation since the final result looks a little more professional and purposeful. I also decided against tires that large since for my use cases the tradeoffs were not worth it.

    Wheels are a matter of personal taste, and functionality. You chose Methods with Bead Grip, so likely you intend to air them down for the trail, but either don't like the look or the increased maintenance associated with bead locks. Keep in mind this creates an implied mod of having an air compressor, which is omitted from your build list but I imagine you want considering your re-gear includes the ARB air lockers (though I find it strange you pick a TRD Pro base with a factory E-locker, then spec an air-locker to replace it). Wheel diameter plays a role if you intend to upgrade the brakes (which you do).

    Suspension is tricky since it really depends on your final vehicle configuration (including passengers and their stuff, and you and your crap, and your dog, and your rotopacks with fuel or water, etc.) This is why I did the spreadsheet. It's also worth talking to a local off-road shop to get their input. The BS you want to bolt to your front end will impact coilover assembly choice, and the mission specific load you want to carry in the bed will dictate your leaf pack. Looks like you've picked the heavy Deaver pack to support the camper, but Alcan is a company that makes custom leaf packs so that's worth checking out. You'll also need to determine how you want to use the truck to figure out how much travel you want to go with, which will determine the trade-offs as well as other required follow-on modifications. Based on your list, looks like you are looking for a mid-travel kit that ekes out a little more travel. Replacing the spindle and B-arm with more robust components AND running a camper in the bed doesn't make sense since I don't think you're planning on jumping the truck with your currently envisioned loadout. Money may be no object for you, but personally I find greater satisfaction spending only the amount I need to, in order to get the result I want.

    You figured out the rear-end loadout since the camper pretty much takes up everything. Ask yourself if you want a rear bumper and why. Your camper choice looks like it leaves your bed clear for storage, so figure out what's going to live there and how you're gonna take it out (guessing you'll probably want slides).

    Front end is largely a matter of what look you want, and how much weight you're willing to put up with. Winch should be roughly sized to double your truck mission ready weight. Lighting upgrades are usually a low mounted light bar, ditch lights, and upgraded fogs for the front. Those lights will necessitate switches, so figure out a management system (ie. Switchpros or similar).

    You mention solar -- figure out how you want to use the truck, then you can determine your needs. If you're trying to run a fridge with the truck off, then that'll mean power generation (ie. solar), power storage (ie. batteries), and power management. Figure out where that stuff goes.

    Other categories worth thinking about: Water storage, and water purification; Recovery gear; Winter heating provisions, if any; extra fuel storage; wtf are you gonna mount your 34" spare tire.

    Anyways, might be a bit long winded, but the short version is this: figure out your vision of the truck, beyond "Ultimate Overland Tacoma Build". You'll be satisfied with a purpose-built, engineering and technological marvel; but you'll first have to figure out where you want to go, and what purpose your vehicle serves in your life. Otherwise, your hobby is actually just shopping...
     
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  11. Dec 13, 2022 at 11:37 PM
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    Best answer.

    To add what little I can, consider starting stock. Take it somewhere you think you want to go, then make a list of things you wish your rig had. Go from there. The experience will guide your design.
     
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    Here you go. All you need is a checking account with a very, very large balance.

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  13. Dec 14, 2022 at 6:03 AM
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    You mean camping :bananadead:
     
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    I like it but for prob half of what my house costs not for me.
     
  15. Dec 14, 2022 at 8:58 AM
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    All my rigs are purpose built. From crawling to camping. I also enjoy a nice stock truck for what that’s worth. Toyota’s are the jam!
    Brappp, as long as the KTMs are in the stable you will be fine..I know I will ;)
     
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    Ah thank you. I just got it this year 22 excf350 only put 600km on it. Don't ride as much as I used to but I do like having one I can just go when I feel like it. I also bought a 22 cf moto sxs partners with KTM I got a fair bit of use out of it this year.
     
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    All my rigs are purpose built. From crawling to camping. I also enjoy a nice stock truck for what that’s worth. Toyota’s are the jam!
    If I were to be doing another expensive build. I would have gone with a MITs flatbed/camper.

    I have seen a lot of build tacos, many look the same. I really have been enjoying watching the Aussie’s buildouts.

    If you can take a brand new 200 services LC and cut it in half, your willing to make something interesting.

    Why not build it out as a UTE with a camper. Just a thought since this is Overland related.

    They have dealers in the US.
    https://mitsalloy.com.au/
     
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    What’s the brake setup, upgraded calipers?
    What do the hammer shackles do?
     
  19. Dec 14, 2022 at 9:51 AM
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    Calipers, rotors, pads, brake lines.

    Hammer Hangers are replacement shackles that don't bend, add a ton of rigidity to the rear of the truck so the suspension works better.
     
  20. Dec 14, 2022 at 9:58 AM
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