Upgrading Rough Country 3" spacer kit?

Exactly the same as in my Tacoma is exactly the same as an F-150? I was going to get an F-150 but was much more than the Tacoma and since they are basically the exact same thing I went with the Tacoma because the only difference was the Tacoma ended up being cheaper.

 

No, exactly the same if they had the same engine and interior, but were painted different colors

Did you read the link I posted?

 

Yes I did read it and I understand your confusion with that article since it can be a bit misleading with some of the terminology that they used. Again I can say my truck is exactly the same as an F-150 if we are going by the standards that you are setting in the fact that my truck uses all the same truck technologies as all other trucks being built or that a load range E tire is exactly the same as a load range C tire. I think you need to go back and read that article and understand that they aren't saying that the only difference is the exterior coating and boot on the shocks. Yes some of the components are carried over to save on manufacturing costs but there are differences besides exterior protective coatings.

 

Enlighten me. Internally, what are the major differences?

 

I don't work for Bilstein and I have never taken their product apart so I don't know and if they are exactly the same then why cant people just use their stock shocks to gain the 2.5" of lift that you get with the 5100's? If the exterior coating was the only difference then using the stock shocks would be an option for lifting your truck without the use of a spacer. I'm not the one that said they are they exact same thing with the exception of color. If the stock shock is exactly the same as the 5100's with the exception of the paint color and obviously the different collar positions for height adjustment then why not just use the stock shocks and install a longer spring to gain the exact same lift as a 5100? The 5100 is a longer shock and even states that it has different characteristics internally that allow to be used as direct replacement to give an identical ride but are built so if assembled to achieve lift will give a different ride to compensate for heavier parts. So without taking the shocks apart and with only reading that article its clear that the 5100's are NOT exactly the same as the 4600's even though they BOTH use the same technology and some NOT all of the parts are carried over which like all manufacturers is a common practice. YES the 5100 can replace the OEM shock BUT the OEM shock cannot replace the 5100 if its being used on a lifted vehicle........ unless you add a spacer to the top of the OEM shock. Yes they are similar but they are not exactly the same and that is what I am getting at.

 

The 5100 has an adjustable lower spring perch that provides lift by preloading the coil. If the 4600 had an adjustable lower spring perch it would do the same thing.

You must have missed the word "basically"

 

I didn't miss the word "basically" and I focused more on the degree to which you compared the two shocks by saying they are "the exact same thing"

The two shocks are NOT the exact same and color isn't the only difference. The 5100 is slightly longer than the 4600 and has a longer range of motion which is why its used for lifting Tacoma's as apposed to the 4600 which if it had the same range of motion it would be as easy as adding a longer coil with the specific spring rate to achieve the same amount of lift. I have heard many people say the 5100 shock body is slightly bigger but I cant find anything that proves this so I can't comment on that.

It's Taco Tuesday

 

No, I did not say that.

Trust me, I know the "differences" between the two shocks. It's obvious you're getting your information from the Bilstein sales video which is aimed at selling you a shock using key words. I've had several sets of Bilstein shocks and have taken the measurements. The Tacoma 5100 is roughly 1/2" longer extended than the 4600, but it actually has LESS overall travel because the compressed length is longer.

This is all common knowledge so I'm done beating the horses corpse. Enjoy your tacos

 

Your words NOT mine

 

Stop trolling me.

 

I wasn't trolling you, I thought we were having a discussion about Bilstein shocks and the differences which could prove useful to others later on but if that's how you feel then I am sorry if I offended you. I know I've learned a few more things about Bilstein shocks since this thread was started and hopefully others do to.

By the way the Taco's were delicious but I could be wrong since I am deployed and that's all they were offering.

 

I can tell you from experience other than being manufactured by the same company they are nothing alike. The 887 springs are also nothing like the 7 year old stock springs I replaced. The truck has never ridden better. Not even the day I picked it up at the dealership. Here the best part of I want to I can make changes to the 5100's I could only change the 4600. So sure the technology is very similar but they are completely different monkeys. Are coil overs a better option? Not for my intended use. I suggest anyone who needs professional opinions talk to HeadStrong. Marie is fabtastic and she can steer you in the right direction for what you want to use your Tacoma for.

 

Oh and the 5100's are much larger in diameter than the 4600.

 

Love your rim choice. Had the same ones on my 14 and wishing I had gotten them again for my 16 instead of the motometals that I have now.

 

Great looking tacoma. I love the black. If I could have found one I'd have probably gotten it. Love the dc2's

 

You're right. The 5100 has a 10mm larger body than the 4600. It helps with heat soak.