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Variation of installation of a power tailgate lock on 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport

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  1. Apr 21, 2019 at 8:48 AM
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    OK, there are several threads out here regarding the availability and installation of a power tailgate lock. As we all know by now, there is a Toyota Part# 00016-34092 that is the official Toyota power lock for the tailgate. However, for some strange reason that nobody seems to know, this is only available to southeast toyota dealers! However, upon closer look at the package, it actually has a PopNLock inside the package, so it was just a repackaged Toyota part, which was confirmed to me by a salesman at a Toyota dealership! The PopNLock part number is PL8535. BUT, that is not my question!

    I have been thinking about this a lot, as I put a tonneau cover on my tacoma, and it could be easily stolen since the tailgate is always unlocked. And although it can be locked with the key that is inside of my keyfob, it just seems to be strange to have to pull out a key to open the tailgate, when everything else on the truck is keyless! However, upon just thinking about everyday use, after installation of this power lock, and if hooked up to the passenger door, it would unlock the tailgate everytime one double-clicks on the keyfob, which opens all the doors. This seems to be a waste of use of the power lock, when most of the time, I would not need to unlock the tailgate if I was double-clicking the key fob to open all the doors. And from what I have heard, the tailgate lock makes a LOT of noise when it pops locked or unlocked. SO, since I would only need to unlock the tailgate here and there, I was wondering from someone more electrically competent than I, I could hook this up to a switch that would be mounted in one of the blank places that are available on the bottom of the dash, and used much like one would use one of those gas tank cover remote releases, whereby, one would just hit the switch or whatever, whenever one wanted to unlock/lock the tailgate? I feel that this could be easily done, and part of the installation process when installing the power tailgate lock. Again, I am no electrician, but I am just thinking out loud here, in that it seems to me, that a switch of some kind, could just be hooked to the wires near where they are hooking up on the side of the passenger or driver side, so that unlocking the tailgate lock would ONLY happen when pressing this switch, or "rocking" this switch, depending on what type of switch it is. So, can someone tell me if this is possible, as I am pretty sure it might be, and REALLY, could someone point me in the direction of an actual switch that could be utilized here, with link to where I could get it? There are some COOL people here, so I know someone can figure this out for me!
     
  2. Apr 21, 2019 at 9:03 AM
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    The Toyota powerlock you refer to is only available at southeast dealers as it’s just that, not an official Toyota part but a southeast distributor part.

    As for the wiring you want, that’s super simple, finding a suitable switch that matches the Toyota square switches will be hard (actually probably impossible). You simply need a single pole double action momentary switch. Ie on-off-on switch that always toggles back to the off position. The lock works from a ground and two power wires. Power one wire “momentarily” and it locks, power the other “momentary” and it unlocks. So your switch needs 3 positions, center off position that it always defaults too, then move it up or down for lock and unlock, and it needs to spring back to the off center position.

    This is the type of switch you need. But this has two poles, you only need one pole. if you used this switch you’d simply not use 3 of the pins.
    https://www.delcity.net/store/Power...Pf3fWREGp_DJwrgQTsZKD8KHRbRECOFRoCHDcQAvD_BwE
     
  3. Apr 21, 2019 at 9:04 AM
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  6. Apr 21, 2019 at 10:33 AM
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    I had the peasant model Nissan Frontier before i got my Tacoma and I installed both Power Windows and Door locks on the truck. For the door locks, I wired up relays like @caribe makaira posted in the above diagram. I used a Spal door lock switch like in the link below (part number 37000118 or 37000050) and installed it in the dash panel.

    http://www.spal-usa.com/power_lock_kits/automated/accessories/37000118.html

    http://www.spal-usa.com/power_lock_kits/automated/accessories/37000050.html


    You could also use a dorman one which might be easier to find. (Part# 901-068)

    https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-12657-901-068.aspx?origin=keyword
     
  7. Apr 21, 2019 at 10:47 AM
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    Damn! You guys are insanely great! Although I don't "understand" your answers, other than where to get the switch, I understand at least, that it can be done and supposedly, done fairly easily. Wow. I need to study this more, but this looks like what I was wondering about. Thank you SO MUCH!!! WOW!
     
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  8. Apr 21, 2019 at 10:51 AM
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    The diagram @caribe makaira posted is just using 2 Bosch style relays that when you apply power to one relay it triggers the actuator to go in one direction (lock), then apply power to the other relay and it essentially reverses the polarity to trigger the actuator to go in the opposite direction (unlock).

    With a pop n lock, this is done through the trucks power lock relays but since you want to run it separately, If you wire it up exactly as in the diagram, it is exactly what you are looking to do.

    https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-332209150-Relay/dp/B0010AH6YM
     
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  9. Apr 21, 2019 at 11:19 AM
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  11. Apr 21, 2019 at 1:30 PM
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    TacoTruck808 ; a little confused here! Of the diagrams that are posted above, WHICH one from caribe makaira is the correct diagram for what I am wanting to do? And regarding all the various links, the ones from Amazon and rallylights, look like some kind of relay, with no switch. The links from spal-usa, delcity,and dormanproducts look like what I would want to do, but if I got one of those switches, is that ALL I would need, and just wire the switch into the wires coming from the tailgate PopNLock assembly? Of course, I figure that the wires from the assembly or the switch would have to be run and connected to some "hot wire" and a ground wire, but I am 'thinking' that that is all that would have to be done then? I actually 'think' I just 'may' be somewhat halfway "understanding" this, which I am shocked at! Thanks for the help and clarifications! Unbelievable, what all you guys know! Wow!
     
  12. Apr 21, 2019 at 2:20 PM
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    This top diagram is the one you need to wire everything up, the bottom one shows you where you can tap power from to power the locks.



    It is showing how you need to wire up the 2 relays together, how to connect it to the actuator and where the switch needs to be.

    The Spal and Dorman are just the SPDT switches, you still need to buy 2 Relays, some wires (or relay harness) and a tap-a-fuse. I guess if you actually see the pins on the relay, you will understand the diagram. All 5 pins on the relay are labeled 30,85,86,87,87a. I assume you already have a pop-n-lock so that would be the actuator.

    To make it even easier, SPAL has a module that can be used in place of the 2 relays, but would probably cost more and essentially that is all the module is, 2 relays with wire harness all ready to go.
     
  13. Apr 21, 2019 at 2:30 PM
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    Here are pictures of a Bosch type relay and harness which shows the pins labeled. You can get mostly everything you need from Amazon. The switch, you may have to do more searching.
    F4117195-08D6-464B-902D-82EFE3451121.jpg F6E7AB8F-AAA1-4485-860C-94CDD3949300.jpg

    BTW, you dont have to buy the Bosch brand, most that look similar will work also. As long as they have the same pin outs.
     
  14. Apr 21, 2019 at 3:22 PM
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    I have about 50 genuine Bosch relays if anyone wants to buy some.
     
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    TacoTruck808 ; I am not an electrician, so I do not know a thing about relays, etc. So, although it may cost more, the idea of buying one "thing" that has everything I need, is attractive to me. If someone could get me a link to this "SPAL" thing
    TacoTruck808 is referring to, then that would be totally great! I am ordering the PopNLock tailgate lock today, so I need to get the switch/etc, ordered today too, if possible. I plan on printing all of this out, so that when I take the PopNLock and the switch to the Toyota dealer to install, they will know what to do. Much appreciated!
     
  16. Apr 22, 2019 at 8:44 AM
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    Here is the module i was referring to. I don’t know if it comes with a harness or not so you may need to contact the manufacturer or seller when you find it.

    http://www.spal-usa.com/power_lock_kits/automated/accessories/60040222.html

    I was under the assumption you were going to do this yourself. But if you dont plan to DIY it, you may be better off taking your truck to a local car alarm installation shop with your switch and pop-n-lock and have them install it. Most likely they can make the relay harness you need and provide the needed wiring and mod to the panel where the switch will be located. Also, i am not sure if the Toyota dealer will do this type of custom install that is not plug-n-play and if they tell you they can do it, most likely THEY will sub it off to an alarm install shop anyway and charge you a substantial markup. I would contact the alarm shop before buying all the stuff though, just to make sure you get everything they will need to install it.

    Honestly though, i am not sure it will be worth all of this if you are not doing it yourself. The pop-n-lock kit comes with detailed instructions on how to install the actuator, run the wires and where to tap it off. @KTJO 4x4 also sells a plug-n-play harness that you can buy that you wont even need to tap your wires if you want to.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...h-bolt-n-lock-bracket-rod-by-ktjo-4x4.592685/

    Her full kit requires some modification though so you can just buy the harness from her and a pop-n-lock kit separately.

    EDIT: just saw she has a new bracket for the actuator to make it easier to install so that may be another option for you.


    I have had an aftermarket power lock actuator kit on my previous Frontier on all 4 doors and tailgate opening and closing everytime I drove it for 15 years and it didnt ware out the actuators. I am sure the pop-n-lock actuator will last as long as the factory ones in your truck and the convenience of being able to open the tailgate with your keyfob will be much more beneficial in my opinion.

    Good luck whatever you decide.
     
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    Module from DEI will work too, been using for many years.
    DEI 451M is cheaper that SPAL
     
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    TacoTruck808 ; I can do a lot of things, and I did actually see the official pdf file that Toyota provides, that gives their mechanics the instructions for how to install the PopoNLock kit. Those instructions actually SHOW the PopNLock in a picture, even though they are 'claiming' it is a toyota part/option. So that was an eye-opener for me. But because Toyotajeff at Fred Anderson Toyota in raleigh NC, was and is, a big help to myself and others who have or are contemplating buying a Toyota, I decided to just order the Official Toyota version from him, even though I can get it cheaper online. I just felt like I owed him that much, as he did tell me that he gets credit for orders placed through him. the guy was a big help to me in many ways, when I was considering ordering my new TRD Sport. I even considered flying in to RDU and buying it from him, as the sales tax was only 3% there, as compared to 9.75% here. And since I was considering another cross country trip anyway, the drive was not a factor. But in the end, due to complications with the state of CA dmv, and their requirement that I pay sales tax for CA anyway, I ended up buying it here in the SF Bay area. But make no mistake about it, Toyotajeff [look up his videos on Youtube, under Toyotajeff] does a great job providing information that is just not readily available. By the way, I do like your idea of having an auto alarm place install it. I will check into that today, as it might be cheaper than the dealer. Thanks!
     
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    Yeah, and the kit they are selling is not really an “official” toyota part made by Toyota USA. It is a kit only available in a specific region, along with a LED bed light kit and some other accessories that they put a Toyota part number on it and sell it at that regions dealerships or online. If you were to go into your dealership in the Bay Area or mine in Hawaii, they wouldnt be able to get that part for you, if they could even pull it up.

    Its always a good thing to support someone who has helped you in the past so I totally agree with you on that.
     
  20. Apr 22, 2019 at 9:42 AM
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    How much do you think it'll cost you for the dealer to install it that way?
     

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