vF Tuner for the 3.5L Tacoma

Sorry I know y’all are overwhelmed with support tickets but mine is 25715

 

VF TUNER -
Pro Tuners are eligible to request Beta access
- starting with ECU ID 04B04 -

3 Way Map switching + AFR Target Control tables.

For their own development / testing and tuning.

Parameters
- AFR Target control (standard)
- AFR Target control ( ECT ON)
- AFR Target control ( 4LOW)

- Intake Valve timing (standard)
- Intake Valve timing ( ECT ON)
- Intake Valve timing ( 4LOW ON)

- Throttle control ( standard)
- Throttle control (ECT ON)
- Throttle control ( 4LOW ON)


Transmission -
- Single Shift map patch -

- All standard shifting controlled through 1 set of shift tables
- All ECT Based controls through 1 set of shift tables

-Elimination of individual tables for cold ECT


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PRO TUNERS ONLY AT THIS TIME.

 

Quoting these here from Moose's tuning thread just in case anybody knows what I'm referencing and can confirm that the values has translated well from 04B04/04A61 to 04B33/04B81/04C20 without issue, as a result of having axis values match

 

@OVTune I know that nothing has changed *as of now* as you say, but given the post quoted below, I'm just going to ask what I'm sure many people are wondering and thinking: what changed?

You'd mentioned that people were screwing each over if I remember correctly WRT to the move to license tune packs to just the buyer, but given the fact that sharing and selling tunes had been blessed off on, unless people were selling the packs for more than what you charge on your own website, I'm not sure how people could have been getting screwed over.

I'm not trying to be rude or accusatory. I'm simply trying to give voice to a struggle to understand why there's been so many changes lately for all this. Some things we understand, others, like this, we (or I) do not. Unfortunately the only consistency lately it seems with the system is change.

 

none of the changes are making any effect for any current tune packs, files, etc.


But with the upcoming map switch, custom code, etc. We have been writing tons of code for this on all these ECUs.
The initial point with being able to share things did not mean one person buys the tune pack and distributes the entire tune pack to multiple people.
Nothing is set in stone right now. But all of these changes happening are because people *keep* trying to divert from licensing trucks and using credits appropriately.
it will eventually bite those people in the butt when the costs of credits change.. or they will just drop off the radar.
I don't want to lock down things further.
We just want to ensure things are done fairly.


Like I said, if any change is made, it will be done so fairly.


The most likely thing that is going to happen here is no change, but increased cost for credits.

I really tried to be fair... 40 bucks to flash a truck and people are still doing what they can to avoid 40 bucks.


If your VINis licensed and you've bought a tune pack there isn't anything really changing.


Anyways it's just frustrating every change we make like this is only because of tacomas even though tundras, scion tC, Lexus, etc all use our software.

 

I fully support you doing what you have to in order to prevent people from misusing your software in all of it's flavors, but I'm going to be blunt here. What exactly did you expect to happen with regard to the tune packs when you gave your blessing on file sharing? You specifically said sharing tune files (including tune packs) was a-ok. Without knowing more details on your plans, it feels like the resourceful people here that have acquired a lot of files are very soon going to be SOL.

Again, I'm all for proper licensing so you can make a profit as a business and get some amount of per-truck fee, but moving the goal posts when you find a shortcoming in your business model or license agreement is not ideal. I hope these changes are a result of you sitting down and thinking long and hard about your business model, licensing, and how you want to move forward in a consistent and logical way.

I for one have tried my best to stay kosher with everything I have done including back when P5F files were still available. I have nearly all of them, but I never flashed a truck with them as it was not expressly permitted. Per-truck VIN licensing and Per-ECU editing for credits, I'm fine with that. Some nominal fee for major software updates, I may even be fine with that. My point is, if I'm going to continue with this I expect some consistency.

 

Can anyone elaborate on what "AFR Target Control" is?

 

If I'm understanding how systems like HP Tuners' interface and other software works, I think it's a means of telling the truck what AFR to actually use.

For example, vehicle is on the dyno and you're trying to bump up power in a specific rpm range, let's say 3000-3500rpm, at 75% throttle. Set a target AFR and then watch your power curve. Edit as needed, rinse and repeat.

If I'm understanding correctly from videos I've watched about the tuning process WRT editing AFR

 

So this table would be a one stop adjustment to change target AFR based on rpm & load instead of having to find all of the tables that input for AFR based on various conditions, etc? If so, that would be pretty damn slick assuming it works that way without compromise.

 

Would be very cool indeed. Mat would need to confirm that's how it'll work however. I could be way off

 

I understand. I am not sure why you guys would be SOL. It doesn't change any access to any files you do have or will have.

When I posted it was a thought, discussion.

VIN locking tune packs isnt going to be happening, it's just to cumbersome. I said VIN, but meant licensing. (For example when you open a file, you license it).

Now that we have a pretty streamlined setup there really won't be much changes in the future, other than updates.

1 thing is planned, as we continually release more stuff, the price of credits will go up.

The most likely scenario is that custom patch files will have unique IDs, so if you want to unlock the file there would be a credit cost.


Here is the thing, I get emails all the time from our dealers, tuners, watching instagrams, facebook, etc etc of people who are doing things they shouldn't be. Changes get made because of that stuff.


I talk with you guys ahead of time before changes are made to make sure we are all on the same page here.

 

Yes that's how it works. Use that 1 map to target the AFR you want and ignore all the other tables.

 

I appreciate that Mat. I think we all do. The work you've put into this platform is absolutely incredible.

Increasing the cost of credits is certainly one way of doing things, but that can also be confusing. Maybe changing the credit cost of unlocking/using certain things would be better?

I (along with others I'm sure) would be hesitant to flash a file that identified as a different ID that the dealer could see and void a warranty. Just something to consider. If there is some other way you can bury a code/key in the the files that doesn't change the ID that would be ideal.

 

How will this handle CL/OL behavior? Any change to that or will it just adjust the CL AND OL AFR values/tables without changing the switching logic to hit the targets in the new table?

 

This is our full time CL AFR target patch. Once the truck enters CL (from start up) this map takes over.


Really simplifies AFR tuning.

 

As price increases for credits, how much are we potentially looking at having to spend to flash a truck then?

 

In addition, how is the additional credits for features going to work? That's how it sounds anyway. When you say custom patch files, do you mean to open up a certain table we'd have to pay for access to it with credits? Is that a one time purchase or for every edit?

 

No this wouldn't be pay to access tables, that's going to far. It would be unlocking access to it. Like when you unlock access to "04Bxx" you unlock once, use continually.

 

Nice. So this would make it so it never enters OL mode?

 

I know that most people were hesitant to update to the newer software because of the flash issues, but those have since been fixed and with the recovery option you added in I see no reason why people can't update.

I assume you're referencing people trying to skirt around the credit requirements by using older software that does not register a VIN. If so, are you able to see which master key has not updated? I don't know if you'd be able to implement a system where those using outdated software are unable to flash trucks.

To me, this doesn't seem harsh. Updates are made for a reason and avoiding the $40 to unlock a truck vin is stupid as hell. I don't even charge much for tuning someone myself... People keep treating the flashing of other's trucks as a business when its just a side hobby they have using the labors of others. Nobody is going to get big enough where they are pumping out 10+ trucks a week and the $40 is going to hurt them.