vF Tuning for Manual Transmission 3rd Gens

Got a link by chance?

 

Is anything happening in this thread, or did it all go to OVTune's blog to die? I can't seem to find anything on that end, but the same question posted over and over.

 

I think everyone has either found a good place to be with edits to the current tunes, are waiting on tune support for the new ECU IDs, or are waiting on Ultimate. I am in that final group.

The threads here are still live as the vF Forum has some limitations that have not yet been addressed. Very low attachment count and size limits. If that ever changes, I will post about any moves here. For now, I have been directing relevant editing questions back to these threads.

 

I think everyone has been fairly content until there’s new features / tables available

 

Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere, but I've read through a lot of VF/OV tuning threads/posts without finding what I'm looking for, and there are far too many to read them all.
I'm considering getting a tune, but I'm looking for it to cure the laggy throttle more than anything.
I've gotten used to the odd broken staircase acceleration and power is adequate but the way the acceleration request pedal goes dead when the engine isn't under load drives me crazy.
Trying to rev match is like rolling the dice. Sometimes the engine revs, but most often the ECU ignores the request or only offers a small burp rather than a blip...
Does the tune do anything for clutch in engine response?
I'm even considering a throttle controller to see if it will up the revs without having to smash the to the floor and wait. Even if it doesn't reduce the lag, perhaps it will rev a bit higher.
What do you think?
Does the tune alter engine response in this way, or do the maps mainly correspond to power delivery?

Thanks,

 

Back in the day, folks have said the tune fixes the dead pedal.

It sounds odd to some, but the tune helps with shifting. Both control and consistency. Also consider the ADM.

 

I did the accumulator delete (thank you for leading that one) and it made a huge improvement in timing the engagement.
Now I just have to work around the inconsistent and lackadaisical throttle opening.

 

You're welcome!

The tune is the missing link then. These to mods really seem to make the Taco really fun.

 

^what he said
Def get tuned

 

The throttle controller just tells the ECU the throttle input is different. Don't bother with a throttle controller.

A tune reprograms the ECU. Overwriting the stock programing improving many aspects of how the truck drives. The tune is the fix you seek.

OVT 2.0 is good, but user tunes are better. Personally I recommend the Valley Runner tune by @TermLimits. Any of the main user tunes out are a significant step up from OVT 2.0, and that is a significant step up from stock. Well worth the money.

If you are technically savvy and can follow directions, buy the software yourself and tune your own truck. If you are concerned about doing that, you can find a local tuner to do it for you.

 

I'm going to be the odd man out and say that the tune does not fix the laggy throttle for rev matching straight out of the gate.

I have managed to do things to it that does, but it always makes other things worse, like touchy throttle in low speed areas like school zones and around town.

There was supposed to be this update that gave us throttle control for neutral and deceleration etc back in an update a while ago, however that is on the back burner it seems.

With that said, i would still get the tune, but it's not got what you want yet

 

Unedited OVTune, maybe not. But it's not the only option

 

I will agree with this. None of the tunes are perfect and there is room for improvement. However they are so much better than stock, most people will never notice IMO.

 

i agree as well, but i also agree with @mZiggy that the different tunes are different with response. in my case the biggest thing outside of the tunes that helped was getting my exhaust right. aside from the high flow cats in the OV dump tubes, the whole system is open flow (media-less), and removing restrictions here has allowed me to rev match effortlessly and consistently. but it's still got a truck's rhythm, it's not edgy throttle response of course.

 

Thank you all.. That falls in line with what I thought.
From everything I've been reading it seems the tuning adjusts the performance but not the behavior of the truck. Which is what I would expect tuning to do.
It seems like a decision making process vs the instructions for applying that process. The tune gives access to the instructions, not the process?
I'm not being negative, it's great that tuning is available. From the maps I've seen, the list of instructions guiding the ECU is extensive.
Far beyond just keeping the stoichiometric air fuel ratio. I think what I want changed is probably at the core of how the ECU addresses the maps and that is probably choked to death by emissions, economy, and safety requirements.
I believe my problem is that I've only had a couple of throttle by wire cars mixed in with a bunch of cable controlled, and the last one was an NC Miata.. that engine was extremely responsive. Now I understand why people didn't believe it was throttle by wire when I let them drive it. I guess it's far more common that throttle by wire sucks.
The Miata really behaved like the pedal was responsible for opening the throttle plate and the computer did the rest.
I understand the nature of most throttle by wire is giving acceleration relative to pedal position rather than opening the throttle plate, but I don't think that translates to manuals very well. We need engine revs relative to pedal, not acceleration, and I hate that the ECU waits to make sure I really meant to push the pedal.. I'm not worried about unintended acceleration. Clutch pedal fixes that.
I guess I'll have to get used to disappointment since I want a relatively new truck with a manual..
Thanks again... Sorry about the rant.. I really like this truck, so it is extra frustrating and infuriating to have something like this holding it back.

 

i understand where you come from, and i came from German mod cars that were all about edge as well as balance. but I'm here to say that this truck has its own balance and even edginess if you can uncover it. it still has a truck's rhythm as i mentioned. if you can slow your inputs and expectations, you may find it. i personally found every sports car I've owned pretty unfulfilling to drive since i could not even get close to where the performance opens up [and engages me] on public roads. so i turned my Tacoma into something that could run near and on the limit all the time, around town, on the highway, wherever, and is ultra engaging... much moreso than any vehicle I've owned or driven. in my case it took some work to get there, and i had to completely relearn driving to do it with an Off-road suspension and 0 camber, etc. but the truck rhythm with slower inputs allowed me to get into very deliberate chassis control and weight balance, and the whole package just works including the motor response. there is a ton of fulfillment available, but for me it's been about the whole package and not merely the tune or throttle response although that was a focus as well. depends on what you can get into and enjoy.

 

@su.b.rat 's build thread is on another level. I recommend you guys check it out.

 

I recommend some people do the fj pedal swap and let me know how it is lol

 

Does anyone notice a slight "stutter" when turning the A/C on with their OV Tune? It happens on and off which I am guessing is the compressor kicking on and off.

 

Slight? The compressor kicking on and off is ridiculously aggressive on this truck. Both before and after tune