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Visible positive camber after lift an alignment

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by hurley1114, Jul 27, 2014.

  1. May 2, 2020 at 6:36 PM
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    winkel

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    There are many on here that are way more knowledgeable than I, but my biggest concern was with the camber and toe. My camber numbers are good, but passenger side is just a few tenths positive. It 'looks' like it's a little more than that but it drives well and my tire wear is as even as I could hope for on the fronts.
    Keep an eye on your tire wear and if it drives ok, I wouldn't sweat it too much. A few years back, my LCA bushings were seized so my camber was a couple of degrees positive on each side, after my lift. It was wearing my front tires pretty bad, on the outsides. I replaced the bushings and got it aligned again and it's been good now. My tires are pretty new so I can see the little vent 'tits' on the tread and they are wearing pretty evenly.
    Just keep an eye on your tire wear!
     
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  2. May 2, 2020 at 11:47 PM
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    Took my truck back in to get realigned today. Before I brought it in, I wanted to double check if I was seeing a positive camber on the truck, so I parked my truck in different spots to eliminate the possibility that it may be uneven ground and truck lean causing a positive visual camber. At times I couldn’t really tell thinking it was an optical illusion. But I know it’s there. The angle was different than the driver side for sure. 100%

    Anyways, told the tech that I’m seeing a positive camber on the passenger wheel. His response was ‘it may look like that but the computer checks out as 0* camber’. Okay... That was the end of that discussion. So I proceeded with requesting him to increase my caster to 3.5* cause I wanted my wheel to move forward and stop rubbing on the fender flare and pinch welds. This is do-able for me because I have the camburg uniball UCAs as mentioned on my previous post.

    They got my alignment close to the caster I wanted.

    The new alignment angle specs are:
    Front Left:
    0.5* Camber
    3.8* Caster
    0.06* Toe
    Front Right:
    0.5* Camber
    3.9* Caster
    0.09* Toe

    I told the tech I wanted 0* camber or as close as possible. The machine was reading 0.6* camber on both left and right side before everything got torqued down. He told me at 0.6* my wheels are sitting flat and if he sets the camber to 0* the wheels will angle significantly with visible negative camber. I did’t really understand why the computer was reading that way (tire flat @ 0.6*). I’m assuming the out of range caster adjustment was throwing off the reading because the computer is expecting OEM specs. The tech is probably ignoring the number and manually lining the wheels straight? Tech reinsured me the way he has it minimizes tire wear, so I trusted him since he’s the alignment expert.

    But anyways, my alignment came out good, it drives better and feels better on the road and freeway. Pretty sure my fender well rubbing is gone, but I might be rubbing up front now due to the high caster. Camber visual wise, I now see a slight positive camber appearance on both passenger and driver. Owell... I’m over it. At least they match now and my truck drives good. Probably it is an optical illusion. Time will tell as I see how my tires wear out.

    The OEM camber range spec is -0.1* to 1.4*. So looks like our trucks are okay from factory to have some positive camber? My camber of 0.5* is in range. But now while writing this, I am starting to think the tech didn’t know what he was doing and that he was just trying to get my camber in the middle of the range than to get me my 0 camber... Don’t know. I’m just overthinking. lol Truck life is not easy.... That’s all I have to say. But everything so far is a learning experience. Keep ya’ll updated.
     
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  3. Sep 25, 2020 at 6:31 PM
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    Hey, jumping in on this a little late.
    I have my Bilstein 6112 set at the 4th out of 5 clip settings in the front, about 2.5 i believe.
    I upgraded my UCA for ones that were supposed to get rid of the positive camber and it seems worse after the alignment.

    Anybody have suggestions on what to do / tell the tech to get the wheels sitting flat?
     
  4. Sep 22, 2022 at 10:34 AM
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    Just thought I'd add -My story exactly the same minus UCAs and with pizza cutters ... its super weird

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  5. Sep 22, 2022 at 10:43 AM
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    Nice looking truck.
    I talked with my old boss at discount tire a few years back when I started watching this thread. At that time, I remember us discussing that some places calculate the thrust of the vehicle. It would be interesting to set up a camera and film the truck driving straight towards the camera to see if the angle of thrust made the visible positive camber disappear.

    Anybody want to make a video? Not it.
     
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  6. Sep 22, 2022 at 1:22 PM
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    hey thanks - i appreciate that!

    I took a look today and it definitely looks like some tire wear on the outside edge.... probably after a thousand miles ... and before I just had it realigned.
    Before I just had it realigned -the passenger side looked like it was positive cambered -and that's the one with the most wear. (note: they did tell me they fixed some toe -i can't remember which tire or how much)
    Now, after having it aligned -they both look positive cambered.... Everyone (2 les schwabs and a dealer seemingly familiar with lifting ) tells me its good -but Im finding it really hard to believe.

    When u look from the front u would swear it looks like its riding on the sides of the tires (i should probably note i have 255/80/17). However, from the back it looks straight. camber specs are .5 and .6 .... heres some pics

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