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Volunteers for a "Before you Buy" Sticky

Discussion in 'Site Suggestions' started by lsocoee, May 2, 2008.

  1. May 2, 2008 at 9:08 AM
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    lsocoee

    lsocoee [OP] My hair is all natural Staff Member

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    I'm looking for a few knowledgeable members to create an all inclusive, "Before you Buy" thread. I'd sticky this, for quick access to all the folks that come in here.

    Things that I'd like to have in here would be pricing, bargaining, dealer offered accessories, available options (and what's included in them), known issues, what people love, what people hate, things to look out for, etc...

    This would be a collaborative project and is open to input from everyone.
     
  2. May 2, 2008 at 9:13 AM
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    tcBob

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    Great idea...I'll include it in the tutorials drop down menu as well once it's ready and on the front page of the site.
     
  3. May 2, 2008 at 9:28 AM
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    Khaos

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    265/75/16 BFG A/T, 18" Magnaflow, K&N Intake Filter, Ultra-Gauge, Kobalt Toolbox, Metal Tail Light Guards, Cobra 19 and 4ft fiberglass antenna, Plasti dipped Badges/lower valance/rear bumper/grill/bullbar/ac controls, black DIN kit, JVC KD-X40, Wet Suit Seat Covers
    I'd be willing to contribute. Sounds like a great thread.

    Edit:
    I can do the different packages, pricing, and a quick run down of some of the dealer accessories.
     
  4. May 2, 2008 at 9:35 AM
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    lsocoee

    lsocoee [OP] My hair is all natural Staff Member

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    Great! We can do all the work in this thread. Post something up here when you get a chance.
     
  5. May 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM
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    eordonez

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    OEM All Weather Mats, wheel locks, Toyota Silver Tube steps.....
    Sounds great to me.... i bet it'll be very helpful for those that are willing to buy but haven't decided yet....
     
  6. May 2, 2008 at 10:16 AM
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    Advantage Torza top (tri-fold), Husky floor mats, RuffTuff seat covers, C2C hood struts, Homelink mirror, USA Spec PA15-Toy (120gig Classic & 8gig nano), Garmin Nuvi 660, Protecta Bed mat, Pop-n-lock, TSB Springs, Scangauge II, Heated drivers seat, Fumoto drain valve, Aries pushbar, PIAA 540 fog lights, Hood scoop grahics, Flowmaster 50 series dual catback exhaust, RainX Latitude windshield wipers, Husky rear floor liner (ontop of folded down seats). Console Vault.
    I'm willing to volunteer!
    Let me know what you guys think I'd be good at...or hell, I'll work on anything.
     
  7. May 2, 2008 at 10:21 AM
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    I'll try to get a post up with the info I said I'd take care of later this afternoon or evening. I'll grab invoice pricing as well as MSRP for all the models and whatnot so that people have something to go off of.
     
  8. May 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM
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    Khaos

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    I got pricing info on all models, packages, and accessories done. Should I start the thread and then some of the others can add to it as they see fit?

    I have all my info saved in word so let me know.
     
  9. May 2, 2008 at 1:06 PM
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    how bout put all the goods into this thread and then someone (lsocoee or someone else) can neatly compile it so it's easy for someone looking to buy to read and figure out (the haggling tips, accessories, options, strategies, etc). I think that's what lso's originally idea was.
     
  10. May 2, 2008 at 1:11 PM
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    lsocoee

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    Yeah. That would be great.
     
  11. May 2, 2008 at 1:16 PM
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    Tacoma Pricing Guide:​

    5 Lug Models
    Regular Cab Models & Pricing:
    I4 Manual Transmission: MSRP $14,200 – Invoice $13,968
    I4 Auto Transmission: MRSP: $15,180 – Invoice $14,802
    Access Cab Models & Pricing
    I4 Manual Transmission: MSRP $18,455 – Invoice $16,922
    I4 Auto Transmission: MRSP $19,355 – Invoice $17,818

    PreRunner Models
    Regular Cab Models and Pricing:
    I4 Manual Transmission: MSRP $15,885 – Invoice $14,775
    Access Cab Models and Pricing:
    I4 Manual Transmission: MSRP $19,215 – Invoice $17,688
    V6 Manual Transmission: MSRP $20,670
    V6 Auto Transmission: MSRP $21,550 – Invoice $19832
    Double Cab
    V6 Auto Transmission Short Bed: MSRP $23,275 – Invoice $21,164
    V6 Auto Transmission Long Bed: MSRP $23,755 – Invoice $21,617

    4x4 Models
    Regular Cab Pricing
    I4 Manual Transmission: MSRP $18,960 – Invoice $17,625
    Access Cab Model and Pricing
    I4 Manual Transmission: MSRP $22,960 – Invoice $20,511
    V6 Manual Transmission: MSRP $23,845 – Invoice $21,938
    V6 Auto Transmission: MSRP $24,725 – Invoice $22,734
    Double Cab Model and Pricing
    V6 Manual Transmission Short Bed: MSRP $25,470 – Invoice $23,153
    V6 Auto Transmission Short Bed: MSRP $26,350 – Invoice $23,952
    V6 Auto Transmission Long Bed: MSRP $26,850 – Invoice $24,405




    What are these different models?

    5 Lug - This Tacoma sits very low to the ground and utilizes a 5 lug bolt pattern for the wheels, hence why they are called 5 lugs. They have the least ground clearance of all Tacoma models and are unavailable in a V6 model.

    PreRunner – It is very common to see people confuse PreRunner with 4x4. The term PreRunner comes from Desert Racing where teams would use a 2wd truck to pre run the course to look for trouble spots. Toyota uses this term to refer to a 2wd truck that has a 4x4 suspension, thus giving it increased ground clearance and looks.

    4x4 – The term 4x4 comes from having 4 wheels, all 4 can receive power from the engine. In a 4x4 Model you have a Transfer Case that will allow you to take your truck out of rear wheel drive and make all for wheels power it. This is a good thing for those who tow boats or plan on doing a lot of Off Roading.


    Mechanical Specs

    Engine:
    2.7-liter DOHC EFI 4-cylinder with VVT-i
    159 hp @ 5200 rpm
    180 lb.-ft. @ 3800 rpm

    4.0-liter DOHC EFI V6 with VVT-i
    236 hp @ 5200 rpm
    266 lb.-ft. @ 4000 rpm

    Suspension:

    Front: Coil Spring Double Wishbone
    Rear – Solid Axel with Leaf Spring and Staggered Outboard Mounted Shocks

    Options:

    Packages:
    Towing Package: MSRP $650 – Invoice $520
    Includes: Class 4 Hitch, Supplemental Oil Cooler, HD Battery, 130amp Alternator, 7 Pin hitch connecter with converter, Transmission Cooler


    Convenience Package: MSRP $1,460 - Invoice $1,168 Includes: Power Windows, Power Locks, Power Mirrors, Keyless
    Entry, Cruise Control, Sliding Rear Window w/Privacy Glass


    SR5 Package: MSRP $3,835 – Invoice $1,788
    Includes: Chrome Grille Surround and Rear Bumper, Color Keyed Front Bumper and Fender Flairs, Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel and Shifter, Variable Speed Windshield Wipers, Sun visors, Power Windows, Power Locks, Power Mirrors, Keyless Entry, Cruise Control, Sliding Rear Window, Driver Seat Lumbar
    Support, Passenger Fold Flat Seating, Fog Lamps


    TRD Sport Package: MSRP $3,915 – Invoice $3,142
    Includes: SR5 Package, Color Keyed Bumpers and Grill, Upgraded Fabric, Sport Seats, Sport Suspension, Bilstien Shocks, 17 Inch Alloy Wheels, Limited Slip Differential, Bed Power Point, Fog Lamps, Hood Scoop, Color Matched Door Handles and Mirrors


    TRD Off Road Package: MSRP $3,755 – Invoice - $3,013
    Includes: SR5 Package, Sport Seats with Lumbar Support, Off Road Suspension with Progressive front Coils, Bilstien Shocks, 16” Alloy Wheels, Locking Rear Differential, Bed Power Point, Fog Lamps, Engine and Transfer Case Skid Plate

    TRD Off Road “Rugged Trail” Package: MSRP $3,850 – Invoice $3,077
    Includes: SR5 Package and TRD Off Road Package, Black Fender Flairs, Black “Baja” 16 Inch Alloy Wheels

    NOTE: TRD Packages are not available on ANY I4 Models.

    Stand Alone Options:

    Vehicle Stability Control: MSRP $950 - Invoice $817

    Limited Slip Differential: MSRP $390 – Invoice $322

    6 Disc In Dash CD Changer: MSRP $200 – Invoice $150

    Sliding Rear Window: MSRP $285 - $228

    Daytime Running Lights: MSRP $40 – Invoice $32

    Dealer Installed Options

    Bug Deflector: MSRP $149 - $110

    Auto Dimming Mirror: MSRP $275 – Invoice $192

    Borla Sport Exhaust: MSRP $599 – Invoice $493

    Tinted Windows: MSRP $175 – Invoice $110

    Toyoguard Protection: MSRP $619 – Invoice $159
    Includes: Exterior Paint Sealant, Sealant Cleaner, Interior Protector, Undercoating and Sound Sealing, Vehicle Vin # Etched into Glass

    Toyoguard Plus: MSRP $699 – Invoice $231
    Includes: Toyoguard Package, Roadside Assistance, First Oil Change Free, Rental Car Assistance, Emergency Towing Assistance

    Dealer Accessories:

    Bed Cargo Divider: MSRP $275 – Invoice $220

    Bed Cross Rails: MSRP $139 – Invoice $110

    Bed Extender: MSRP $325 – Invoice $247

    Bed Mat: MSRP $125 – Invoice $93

    Tacoma Carpet Mats: MSRP $199 – Invoice $137

    Tacoma Rubber Mats: MSRP $169 – Invoice $110

    TRD Carpet Mats: MSRP $199 – Invoice $137

    Bull Bar: MSRP $475 – Invoice $357

    Skid Plate: MSRP $199 – Invoice $165


    I highly recommend purchasing the accessory Rubber Floor Mats and Bed Mat.
     
  12. May 2, 2008 at 1:27 PM
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    lsocoee

    lsocoee [OP] My hair is all natural Staff Member

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    Good work. While it's fresh on your mind, what's your source?
     
  13. May 2, 2008 at 1:30 PM
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    Thanks. Its a mixture between Costcoauto.coms info (which I can vouch is reliable) and Toyota.com

    The section describing the differences between each model was all my own info.
     
  14. May 2, 2008 at 9:04 PM
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    Damn good job! That took a lot of work!
     
  15. May 2, 2008 at 11:03 PM
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    Good job Hui that sure will help some folks here
     
  16. May 3, 2008 at 8:44 AM
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    Body colour advantages/disadvantage:

    White: Not recommended in extreme snow areas: Prone to accidents since it blends in with the snow.

    Black: Hard to maintain and shows dirt and scratches very easily.

    Silver: One of the easiest colours to maintain. Hides dirt/dust best.

    Rust Protect:

    Do not buy factory rust protection. Its a waste of $$$. Go to an after market supplier (Zeibert, Krown, RustCheck) they are cheaper and provide far superior protection.

    Always shop at more that one dealership to compare pricing if possible. Once at the dealership, go over to the service department and speak to the customers (in waiting) about their dealership experience, commitment etc. Feed back does not get any better that this.

    Rent (for a weekend) the vehicle you want to buy if you are not sure if this is exactly what you want. Some dealerships will give you a demo for the weekend.

    Do not mention trade in vehicle (if any till the end) since it will diminish your bargaining power.
     
  17. May 4, 2008 at 6:58 PM
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    Different Cab Sizes:

    Regular Cab. Picture: Base Model I4

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    Access Cab. Picture: Access Cab V6 TRD Off Road

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    Double Cab. Picture: Double Cab TRD Sport

    [​IMG]
     
  18. May 4, 2008 at 8:08 PM
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    awesome post da hui
     
  19. May 5, 2008 at 10:12 AM
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    Khaos

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    Thanks for the kind words yall.

    I'll work on the things we love/hate about our trucks later today and compose a list of "mods" I would suggest (bed mat, rubber mats, gater saver, ect) and the safety info for our trucks.
     
  20. May 6, 2008 at 6:40 AM
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    lsocoee

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    Thanks. I've been pretty busy (with no end in sight) so I'll look to see what else we need and try to work on that.
     
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