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want to learn how to weld. ?'s

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  1. Nov 9, 2010 at 1:22 PM
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    Hunter'06FLKY

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    everything that i did was stick welding. it was definitely hard to get used to it on the thinner metals.
     
  2. Nov 9, 2010 at 1:24 PM
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    If you can stick weld sheet metal than I would say you could probably mig weld anything
     
  3. Nov 9, 2010 at 1:32 PM
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    The house has a gas dryer. :duel: :D

    Could you elaborate on what the auto set feature does?
     
  4. Nov 9, 2010 at 1:40 PM
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    You set your wire size and material thickness and it sets your amperage and wire feed for you
     
  5. Nov 9, 2010 at 2:00 PM
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    steve o 77

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    It does an okay job too, but I usually end up just setting it up manually because I get better results that way.
     
  6. Nov 9, 2010 at 6:46 PM
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    big thanks for all the info guys! definitely helps a lot
     
  7. Nov 9, 2010 at 7:35 PM
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    mig is easy. Just read a book, watch some videos, and practice.
     
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    You can get away buying a smaller welder and still welding thicker plate than what it is used for. You just need to grind the plates in a v shape or bevel them and run mutiple passes. Being 15 years certified in welding by AWS this is what is taught in school as well since you might not beable to have a bigger welder for the actual thickness that it is rated for. I have a 110 Lincoln from a welding shop not like Home Depot, there will be differences in them as in duty cycle for how long it can run a continueing bead non stop. Most of these are only like 20 to 30% Duty cycle before the welder will shut down welding non stop. Also some of the welders do not come with a gas solenoid so you can not use a gas cylinder with them. So you need to check these few things out before you buy. I have used my little 110 for over 12 yrs and no problems welding body panels,patching up frame holes,welding up bumpers and other numerous things around the house. Just keep in mind that the welder I have has a max capacity of welding 3/16 plate with a single bead. Now if you go thicker you just need to bevel or groove the plates and add more beads to the plates.
    Going with Flux core or technical term FCAW, Flux Core Arc Welding, it is stronger than the solid wire using the shield gas. The shielding thats in the wire gives you better protection and it can run hotter. It is also better to use if you have dirty metal and are outside as others have mentioned. But its main purpose is that digs into the metal deeper than GMAW process or solid wire with the shielding gas. Mig welding is what they call a spray transfer process or (Short circuit transfer) which is more or less sprayed onto the surface.
    http://www.millerwelds.com/pdf/mig_handbook.pdf
    http://www.thefabricator.com/article/arcwelding/getting-the-best-results-in-gas-shielded-fcaw
    With running solid wire you half to have very clean metal and little or no wind so that your shielding gas does not get blown away.
    Now choosing a welder off Craigslist could be a good chose if you can try it out or see it in action. Or if you can test it electrically. Everything can look good but a fried mother board and you in the price of a new welder to replace it. So check it out or ask questions about it. I have a Millermatic 250 thats 16 yrs old and is still in good shape and welds great, I just picked it up from my grand parents house and brought it to mine to start some new projects. Its a great welder as well as my 110. I use them both.
    Definatley spend the money on a good Auto darkening helmet. A cheap one wont change as quick and as time goes by you will start having eye problems. Not good. The lense needs to change at least 20,000 of a second or quicker or you will be putting more strain on your eyes than needs to be. Most of the major manufactures as Jackson,Hornell,Huntsman are some of the good helmets. You can get a solar powered one or battery operated one. But make sure they have at least 2 or more eyes in the front of the lense. These are for sensing the light to darken. If you cover these up by your arm or welding out of position you helmet might not change to the dark lense and you will get a wedling flash. To many of these and you can get whats called Arc flash. This can be very painful and permanent depending on the severity. It will feel like sand paper in your eyes. You will need to go to the doctor to fix this and have it checked out.
    Get some good leather welding gloves that are not to bulky and a gauntlet style,welding jacket that covers you down to your waist so that when welding over head or laying on your back you dont end up with little hot molten metal in your skin. This is not fun when you cant get out from what your welding quick enough to put out the burning flesh smell.:eek:
    So hope this helps some and not to confusing.
     
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  10. Nov 10, 2010 at 10:08 AM
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    thank you very much!
     
  11. Jan 15, 2011 at 7:40 PM
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    I'm in the same boat as the OP. I'm looking to get in to welding. I have tried it once and want to learn. I have 220v in my garage and was debating whether a 220 welder would be overkill for a beginner. I want to get a versatile unit that I won't be wanting to upgrade in the near future.
     
  12. Jan 15, 2011 at 8:20 PM
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    kbp68

    kbp68 hey...I can change this!

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    You didn't just pick up a welder and learn to lay a bead like that overnight. That looks professional! How long did it take you to do that?

    Here is some examples of what the miller can do with an amateur like me.
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  13. Jan 16, 2011 at 6:30 AM
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    steve o 77

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    Thanks!
    It really is not as difficult as it seems. I've been welding off and on for about 7 years (more off than on). Honestly with a few hours of practice with a good teacher I think anyone could lay beads like that.

    oh and the trailer took about 3 weeks to build.
     

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