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Wanting to make the switch to LED headlights

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by CWhit86, Nov 27, 2023.

  1. Nov 27, 2023 at 4:36 PM
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    CWhit86

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    Hi everyone,

    I just recently purchased a 2020 TRD OFF ROAD. I was driving a 2019 Honda Accord completely loaded. I can't stand the halogen projector lights after having LEDs on my Honda. I am just wanting to know what's the best LED headlights and fog lights for a decent price. I am looking to switch out the entire assembly as well as the fog lights. I saw some for around $1000 and some around $400-$500. I just don't really want to spend $1k on headlights. What are some you have bought and please link them and possibly pics of them on.

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  2. Nov 27, 2023 at 4:43 PM
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    Welcome!

    All the headlight info is here, see post #3.
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/3rd-gen-hid-vs-led-vs-halogen-h11-projector-headlights.589465/

    OEM LED is by far the best, and the only real good option. They will cost more than $1000 and you’ll need an adapter harness for them.

    All the comparison info for fogs is here.
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-led-sae-j583-fog-pod-fog-light-review.554813/

    Selective yellow is better than white for poor weather/fog use. If you live where snow is a concern, then the Diode Dynamics SS3 Max in selective yellow are best. If snow is not a concern, you might consider the Diode Dynamics SS3 Sports or Elites in selective yellow.
     
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    Rexing front and rear dash camera, some LEDs, Weathertech HP floor liners/vent shades/bug deflector/underseat storage bin, OEM Ford bed mat, Diode Dynamics SS3 Pros in selective yellow, Diode Dynamics 18" light bar in amber and universal Carhartt seat covers. Bak Revolver X4S tonneau cover. Android Auto USB plug upgrade! H11 to H9. Sound deadened/insulated floors and rear wall. VLED license plate reverse light. Yokohama GO15s. Rokblokz mud flaps. Flowmaster Super 50 Series with stock resonator. J&L catch can. Speedys Equipment resonator.
    Welcome to TW!

    OEM is probably the best for the money from what many have said but are I think they're $1200 a piece. Maybe you could still get the 25% Black Friday deal if you decide to go that route :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:

    As for fog light Diode Dynamics SS3 Sports or if you live where it snows the Pros would be awesome. If you can afford it the Max's are AMAZING. The Sports are a great upgrade from stock. The Pros are brighter than the Sports but create more glare. The Max's are brighter than the Pros but produce less glare.
     
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    Rexing front and rear dash camera, some LEDs, Weathertech HP floor liners/vent shades/bug deflector/underseat storage bin, OEM Ford bed mat, Diode Dynamics SS3 Pros in selective yellow, Diode Dynamics 18" light bar in amber and universal Carhartt seat covers. Bak Revolver X4S tonneau cover. Android Auto USB plug upgrade! H11 to H9. Sound deadened/insulated floors and rear wall. VLED license plate reverse light. Yokohama GO15s. Rokblokz mud flaps. Flowmaster Super 50 Series with stock resonator. J&L catch can. Speedys Equipment resonator.
    X2 on Selective Yellow!
     
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    That’s ballpark-ish for the pair. Plus the adapter harness.
     
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    Oh...man!

    Sparks Toyota had them for $665 each and the harness was less than $80 from a specialized member here who is OCD on product production! lol

    You could have the OEM LEDs and harness for under $1500...a great upgrade to your Tacoma.
     
  7. Nov 27, 2023 at 5:28 PM
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    Just read on another post that Lewis Toyota in Topeka has 25% off, free shipping on orders $75+ and no tax right now. Could peruse their online site for lights!
     
  8. Nov 27, 2023 at 6:20 PM
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    Thank you all, I thought I had saw on a forum somewhere they had got some for around $500 and worked great. Just wondering which ones those were.

    I am contemplating these here that say they are plug and play https://www.tacomalifestyle.com/pro...q9ZZdPf8s47kAPLShHtjrErsKRxoPChBoCEScQAvD_BwE

    I wonder if these are worth it, just noticed it said amber :cool: https://www.amazon.com/VLAND-Headlights-Assembly-TACOMA-Reflective-Bowl-Clear/dp/B08PVMYW3Y?th=1

    I am wanting something 6000k or higher, love the hyper white light color
     
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    Hard pass. Those are trash. If you think the OEM units are expensive, that is a great way to throw away $300+ only to realize how bad they are and then not have that $300 to put toward the quality OEM assemblies. Vland is a cheap Chinese manufacture, those will be lower output than stock halogens, and they have a very inconsistent blotchy pattern that does not uniformly light up the road, has large dark spots and a significant downgrade from stock. Pretty much a crap headlight all-round, which matches the price point. If you want good lights, they will cost. Any cheap Chinese aftermarket LED assembly is going to be a massive downgrade.
     
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    No. Both those are just rebranded Chinese Vland lights again, you're just paying a premium for a domestic importer to have imported them and stored them in a US warehouse for faster shipping under a different white label brand name. All the same negative drawbacks apply, you just pay a lot more for them now. Almost every aftermarket LED headlight for a Tacoma is going to be garbage in quality. Morimoto was the only aftermarket Tacoma headlight manufacture to not use low quality Chinese manufactures and instead manufacture through CoPlus out of Taiwan. Better than the Chinese garbage, but still not nearly as good as OEM. Morimoto has discontinued the CoPlus contract, so you can buy them directly though CoPlus as well. But they are far more expensive than the Chinese options, and if you are paying that much you might as well get the best and go OEM.
     
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    No. If you want LED headlights that are also better than what you have now you’ll need to spend about $1000. The cheap stuff sucks and is well documented to be garbage by @crashnburn80.

    Morimotos are generally decent quality, are on sale and you can send back your current headlights for a discount in some cases.

    https://www.morimotohid.com/morimoto-16-21-toyota-tacoma-xb-led-headlights
     
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    Better quality than most aftermarket headlights for sure, but still don't compare to OEM. And in the case of aftermarket headlights still don't have a proper/compliant beam pattern lacking uplight making your own headlights vision limiting rather than enhancing, unlike superior OEM. Morimoto XB 2.0s covered in post #4548 here.
     
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    Form lighting is the only other aftermarket option I would consider other than morimoto if you wanted to be a little cheap. However, nothing will compare to oem and with oem, you don’t have to worry about fitment.
     
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    Form lighting is just Diode Dynamics white labeled import brand, primarily using Chinese Vland products. No different than the rest.
     
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    OEM.. there almost on par wit my light Bar.. “Buy once Cry once”..

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    Hmmm I didn’t know that. A coworker has form lighting and they look pretty good. The cutoff line was surprisingly solid. Does that mean diode dynamics’ products are made in China? I have their fog lights and they are the best fog lights I have ever seen.
     
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    First, understand that a projector headlight will have sharp cut offs that look good by nature of the projector design regardless of how bad the light is. The light can be absolute garbage, but in a projector the cut offs are enforced by the projector cut off shield and will still look good. Many people look at a projector cut off as some sort of evaluation of the headlight quality, not realizing any projector using any light source no matter how bad will have the same cut off due to the projector. It isn't a relevant evaluation criteria at all. In fact, Chinese projectors have the opposite problem. They have a sharp cut off with no uplight. This looks great for photos, but is not compliant and actually a downgrade from stock. You need uplight to see beyond the low beam cut off, without it you are vision limited by your own low beam in a massive downgrade from stock.

    No. They are separate brands for a reason.

    Form = Imported Chinese products, white labeled for resale under the Form brand as a subsidiary owned by Diode Dynamics.
    Diode Dynamics = Assembled in the USA best in class lighting products.

    Diode Dynamics products are excellent, delivering well above their price point in performance. They have some of the best fogs on the market.
    Form is relabeled Chinese import, where they have done the import work for you and offer the warranty support locally, for a price premium and are owned by Diode Dynamics.
     

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