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water/methonal injection anyone?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas' started by tacomaforlife, Sep 19, 2012.

  1. Sep 19, 2012 at 7:08 AM
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    anyone running a water/methonal injection system on ther 1st gen with a s/c? if so what brand?
     
  2. Sep 19, 2012 at 7:23 AM
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  3. Sep 19, 2012 at 11:36 AM
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    yea ive talked to him but wasnt sure if anyone on this site was running a diffrent kit.
     
  4. Sep 19, 2012 at 3:29 PM
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    ive got a 2nd generation supercharger with a devils own progressive kit. prob the best mod ive ever done besides the supercharger itself. what are you trying to do just lower intake temps? or increase octane? get rid of pinging?
     
  5. Sep 19, 2012 at 3:44 PM
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    I dont think the 1st gen TRD supercharger warrants this.
     
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    I've seen these kits on N/A engines. Heat is the enemy of power, reduce heat = more power. How is it non beneficial?
     
  7. Sep 19, 2012 at 4:28 PM
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    Looking to lower intake temp and increase octane I have no issues with pinging.
     
  8. Sep 19, 2012 at 4:33 PM
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    The Trd 1st gen s/c won't be harmed by an injection system it would help because the s/c creats hotter intake temps with no way to cool it before entering the cylinders so having a way to cool the air even before it goes Into the s/c should help greatly.
     
  9. Sep 19, 2012 at 4:42 PM
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    Do you have any pics of your setup and does that kit come with a resivor as well?
     
  10. Sep 19, 2012 at 4:46 PM
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    I thought that was what the 7th Injector did :notsure:
     
  11. Sep 19, 2012 at 4:56 PM
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    The results aren't as great with the urd 7th injector according to Texas ace he remove his completely and went with just the injection system.
     
  12. Sep 19, 2012 at 5:05 PM
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    Alot of people used to run the Aquamist systems back in the day. Gadget at URD has played around with just about all of the setups.

    They also uses to sell a throttle plate that would accept the water jet.

    It can lower intake temps a good bit, but dont go to agressive on the tune and the dosing rate.

    I would give Gadget a ring and get his opinion. He knows his stuff better than anyone I know when it comes to make that first gen S/C run like it was supposed too

    I ran the supergrip pulley ( 9 lb) and the URD fuel kit on my 99 with TRD headers and a full exhaust and it make great power with no detonation. I never needed water/meth

    Justin
     
  13. Sep 20, 2012 at 6:14 AM
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    The devils own kit doesn't come with a reservoir, but they have ants on their website that you can purchase. I have some pictures I will upload when I get on my laptop later today. But there is some pictures on their website of a Tacoma install of one of their kits. Here is the link.
    http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/
     
  14. Sep 20, 2012 at 8:03 AM
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    I PM'ed Gadget about weather I should go with the fuel system upgrade or the 7th injector and his take was the 7th injector was prefered due to the fact that it has a similar effect as the water/methonal injection systems. It not only had an intercooling effect, but it helps seel the rotors for a bit better boost. Though my gut still says to get the fuel system upgrade :notsure:.
     
  15. Sep 20, 2012 at 8:51 AM
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    What is the fuel system upgrade your talking about?
     
  16. Sep 20, 2012 at 11:27 AM
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    o ok so basically the same thing ive already done bigger injectors,bigger fuel pump and a piggy back controller.
     
  18. Sep 20, 2012 at 11:37 AM
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    I agree but URD recomends the 7th injector with stock injectors :notsure:. Apparently the fuel upgrade kit was only developed for the EGR trucks (7th injector uses the EGR port on the supercharger)

    If you want more power, I would talk with URD and see about getting onboard with their Rotrex supercharger kit they are developing for the 5VZ.
     
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    I run a 2nd gen supercharger and a snow performance stage 3 water methanol kit also have the trd 7th injector first I used the supercharger but suffered from pinging then added the 7th injector kit but had to bring back timing to get rid of ping which robbed allot of power with the snow kit I keep all my timing and still inject some fuel with the 7th kit it creates allot of power with no ping whatsoever, im still tuning the fuel trims and adjsuting methanol injection, if I had to do it again i wouldnt have used the 7th maybe the larger injectors work better, dont know for sure but I think it would have a smoother rpm torque range, but so far its working great.
     
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