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Welding Question (FCAW)

Discussion in 'General Automotive' started by Dirty Harry, Jul 3, 2018.

  1. Jul 3, 2018 at 10:39 AM
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    Dirty Harry

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    First off, this is my first project and my first time welding anything, so please be kind.

    I have a practical question: If some of my welds are ugly as sin but penetrated both metals and joined them is it okay? I know ideally you want every weld to have a nice, smooth, even coverage, but if I make some ugly-ass welds in certain harder to reach places is it better than nothing?

    (I'm currently using a cheapie flux welder from Harbor Freight. It splatters a bit and sometimes fails to feed smoothly. This leads to some crap welds that are always my fault.)

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  2. Jul 4, 2018 at 8:35 PM
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    are you using HF wire? It's crap.
     
  3. Jul 5, 2018 at 6:30 AM
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    Nope. I switched out for some Lincoln stuff from Lowes. Put in my second roll today and it seems to be flowing a lot better than before. I'm just gonna keep at, but I was wondering if the weld looks like shit, but has noticeable penetration to the second piece of metal that's better than nothing right?

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  4. Jul 5, 2018 at 7:00 AM
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    More heat and slower.
     
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    Those little HF machines really don't have the heat to penetrate enough. I have one around for lawn mowers and stuff but tried once to do what your doing and it just balls up globs of metal.
     
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    What would you suggest for a beginner? This thing was like 85 bucks and I mainly got it to see if I'd be interested in welding.

    As you can see from the above, I'm pretty interested. haha
     
  7. Jul 5, 2018 at 8:59 AM
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    OME and worth every penny.
    For MIG, (best bang for buck on assorted sizes, metals) you would be worlds better with even a cheap Miller.

    I know flux core can be half assed pretty with everything going your way but if you get something gas capable (Co2 at least) you'll be amazed how professional a weld can look with really no experience.

    Helps MIG to downhill also.

    When I have to weld aluminum, I just oxy/acyl. Never bought all the gear needed to do it electric.
     
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  8. Jul 5, 2018 at 9:01 AM
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    Let's see some of these welds up close.
     
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    I can tell from that far away it's not enough heat.
    The machine has High/Low right?
    Even high isn't much heat esp on 110V.

    I know it's easy to get carried away but a decent machine running on 220V with a dial can give you much more capabilities for bigger stuff.

    Right now you're having to pile it up on the heavy side and splash it over to the thin huh? I mean that's how it's done but the cheap machines just make it hard. The puddle isn't molten enough to flow nor penetrate the thicker side.
     
  10. Jul 5, 2018 at 9:26 AM
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    Yeah, exactly. I'll get a picture of some of the welds up close when I get home. I know they're getting through on the stock vehicle metal because they were burning/cooking the paint on the other side. As for the barstock and the angle iron that I bought, I can see the heat marks on most of it. When I shake the bumper the whole car moves. I can even wail on it with a hammer to knock the slag off and join some seems closer for future welds, but some of these welds are ugly as sin. haha
     
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    I bought a hobart handler mig welder an bought a cylinder of argon/co2 been laying down some beautiful welds and fixing a lot of stuff I otherwise would have thrown away.
     
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  12. Jul 17, 2018 at 2:35 PM
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    FAILED!

    I've gotta make the "bumper" slightly taller. That's what I get for not measuring!

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    Those welds did not penetrate. Smack it with a hammer and see if it cracks.
     
  14. Jul 17, 2018 at 7:00 PM
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    I thought the same thing, but I beat the hell out of it and nothing cracked.

    As I've been going I've been getting a bit better. I also switched extension cords to a thicker gauge and I've had much better results as far as flow goes.

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    I wouldn't exactly bolt a winch to it, but its serving my purpose of being much sturdier than the stock, flimsy, sheet metal bumper.
     
  15. Jul 17, 2018 at 7:27 PM
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    Thats fine then. I guess if it breaks you'll be better at welding anyways so you can fab up an even better one! :thumbsup:
     
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  16. Jul 18, 2018 at 9:29 AM
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    Thats the plan! This project taught me a lot and I definitely want to get better. I want to save up for a "real" welder now.
     
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