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Well, F##k me! Stimulus plan!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by ForeRunner, Feb 7, 2009.

  1. Feb 7, 2009 at 10:01 PM
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    ForeRunner

    ForeRunner [OP] Scotch before noon. Moderator

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    Well according to this looks like the Coast Guard is not going to some of the money to keep up it's fleet of 40+ year old cutters up and running. Oh and looks like DHS (agency the Coast Guard falls under) is losing out as well.

    CNN obtained, from a Democratic leadership aide, a list of some programs that have been cut, either entirely or partially:
    Partially cut:
    • $3.5 billion for energy-efficient federal buildings (original bill $7 billion)
    • $75 million from Smithsonian (original bill $150 million)
    • $200 million from Environmental Protection Agency Superfund (original bill $800 million)
    • $100 million from National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (original bill $427 million)
    • $100 million from law enforcement wireless (original bill $200 million)
    • $300 million from federal fleet of hybrid vehicles (original bill $600 million)
    • $100 million from FBI construction (original bill $400 million)
    Fully eliminated
    • $55 million for historic preservation
    $122 million for Coast Guard polar icebreaker/cutters
    • $100 million for Farm Service Agency modernization
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    • $50 million for Cooperative State Research, Education and Extension Service
    • $65 million for watershed rehabilitation
    • $100 million for distance learning
    • $98 million for school nutrition
    • $50 million for aquaculture
    • $2 billion for broadband
    • $100 million for National Institute of Standards and Technology
    • $50 million for detention trustee
    • $25 million for Marshalls Construction
    • $300 million for federal prisons
    • $300 million for BYRNE Formula grant program
    • $140 million for BYRNE Competitive grant program
    • $10 million state and local law enforcement
    • $50 million for NASA
    • $50 million for aeronautics
    • $50 million for exploration
    • $50 million for Cross Agency Support
    $200 million for National Science Foundation (was funding polar ops for the Coast Guard)
    • $100 million for science
    • $1 billion for Energy Loan Guarantees
    • $4.5 billion for General Services Administration
    • $89 million General Services Administration operations
    $50 million from Department of Homeland Security
    • $200 million Transportation Security Administration
    $122 million for Coast Guard Cutters, modifies use
    • $25 million for Fish and Wildlife
    • $55 million for historic preservation
    • $20 million for working capital fund
    • $165 million for Forest Service capital improvement
    • $90 million for State and Private Wildlife Fire Management
    • $1 billion for Head Start/Early Start
    • $5.8 billion for Health Prevention Activity
    • $2 billion for Health Information Technology Grants
    • $600 million for Title I (No Child Left Behind)
    • $16 billion for school construction
    • $3.5 billion for higher education construction
    • $1.25 billion for project based rental
    • $2.25 billion for Neighborhood Stabilization
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    • $1.2 billion for retrofitting Project 8 housing
    • $40 billion for state fiscal stabilization (includes $7.5 billion of state incentive grants)
     
  2. Feb 7, 2009 at 10:03 PM
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    drifter379

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    I dont see my name on that list.:(
     
  3. Feb 8, 2009 at 10:36 AM
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    sonjay

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    Its unfortunate that with the economic crisis, environmental funding is the first to be cut, looks like in both of our countries. Hopefully that won't effect your job.
     
  4. Feb 8, 2009 at 11:07 AM
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    Ehh....We do more with less all the time Ban...Why change it now?? :rolleyes:
     
  5. Feb 8, 2009 at 11:20 AM
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    Everyday we do. Just makes no sense to me.
     
  6. Feb 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM
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    Well that sucks...
     
  7. Feb 8, 2009 at 11:56 AM
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    That 200 mil from NSF bugs me, seeing as NSF funds a good chunk of our polar ops.

    Coast guard originally had that mission VXE-6, but Operation Deep Freeze is handled by us (has been for a while now).

    This plan does not stimulate me.

    well, love him or hate him, it won't matter, time will uncover every defficiency and error, and of course hind sight being what it is, which is 20/20.
     
  8. Feb 9, 2009 at 6:54 AM
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    It is sad that the greatest nation on this planet has
    a gov that simply no longer works.
     
  9. Feb 9, 2009 at 6:57 AM
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    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

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    where the F*&# is this money comming from anyways?!?!
     
  10. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:05 AM
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    We borrow money from China :thumbsup:
     
  11. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:54 AM
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    The reality is that we're coming upon a economic day or reckoning. The whole economic "plan" of giving people more purchasing power with more debt has been around for close to 30 years. Indeed, we've borrowed from China, Japan, Europe, and all those other countries who've assumed that we're basically a bunch of suckers who will keep right on going into debt forever. Well, that machine is not going to work anymore, and stimulus or not, the hard reality is that we're all going to have to get used to living with a lot less-or in other words- living within our means, which for a lot of people means a humble realization of how to correctly measure the value of their purchasing ability.

    Of course Wall Street doesn't want to hear that. But I'm sure they're painfully aware of it.
     
  12. Feb 9, 2009 at 8:09 AM
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    I'm sorry but talk about making the US dollar worthless. And I bet it will be just like the Financial Bailout. Most money will go to the people that don't need it. like the higher ups that already are making 6 figures a yr.
     
  13. Feb 9, 2009 at 9:50 AM
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    That is alot of money :eek:
     
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    anybody see obama's town hall meeting today (it's still happening) --

    he was trying to justify the pork the dems have added to the "stimulus" package... douchebag...
     
  15. Feb 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM
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    What happens if China or the Saudis decide to call there debt? Say they want if to be paid back now?
     
  16. Feb 9, 2009 at 10:56 AM
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    Hell ya! Except that Sadaam did have them, and we didn't owe them any debt... :laugh:
     
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    Its unlikely they would do that since the American dollar is still somehow seen as a safe currency-per the near collapse of the UK economy and the uncertainty of the Euro. But if China and other countries decided to dump their dollars, we would indeed be totally screwed.
     
  18. Feb 9, 2009 at 10:58 AM
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    "So how would you like to have the state of Hawaii?"
     
  19. Feb 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM
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    that might be better. we would have to buy hawaii back from Japan anyway.
     
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    :laugh:
     
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