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What Have You Done To Your 2nd Gen Tacoma Today?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by kwalton, Feb 2, 2008.

  1. Jan 25, 2021 at 11:32 AM
    KeithB

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    OK, so you're saying since its a pivot point that there would be no additional downward force at the wheels on the ground? That's makes no sense. Additional weight in the bed, no matter where it's placed, is going to make the back end of the truck heavier. There will be more downward force at the wheels the further back the weight is placed. Period.
     
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  2. Jan 25, 2021 at 11:35 AM
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    Anywhere weight is place at the back end is going to have a lifting effect on the front end. All I'm saying is you can carry less weight in the bed, say 200 lbs at the tailgate and have the same effect as say 220 lbs at the cab end of the bed.
     
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  3. Jan 25, 2021 at 11:36 AM
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    archive flip kit and I used a 4Runner bump stop kit. The Tacoma bump stop kit has the tabs that go under the square u bolts. I wanted something that had holes that would line up with the holes on the flip kit.
     
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  4. Jan 25, 2021 at 11:37 AM
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    Just different manufacturers, his looks to be Archives.
     
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  5. Jan 25, 2021 at 12:28 PM
    AStinkyBumb

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    Nope that is incorrect. The rear axle and the front of the truck is what would be considered a first class lever. Weight applied at or before the axle (fulcrum) keeps weight on both the front and rear of the vehicle, weight after the axle would cause lift on the front. A great amount of effort is needed to lift the front of the vehicle and these trucks aren't clearly going to wheelie or anything with a few sand bags in the back. However even slight effort pushing the front up is a decrease in potential traction the front has which is the greatest danger in this. When weight in the bed is most needed is when traction both front and back are critical (slippery roads). Greater increase on the rear with even the slightest decrease on the front could be the difference between spinning out or not. Placing the weight at or in front of the axle creates the most optimal down force on all four tires when driving.

    Granted 20lbs of down force behind the axle isn't going to equate to a lot of up force on the front of the vehicle while its rolling on flat ground, but what happens when you hit a dip in the road and your front suspension rebounds pushing the front up and you have extra weight behind the axle making that rebound easier. The front rebounds further than it needs to creating more lift on the front tires decreasing traction. Now instead of having 200lbs spread across all 4 tires in some form you have 200lbs pulling the rear down as the front lifts.
     
  6. Jan 25, 2021 at 12:30 PM
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    Cleaned her up, debating on selling.
     
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  7. Jan 25, 2021 at 12:30 PM
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    Class is in session!:popcorn:
     
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  8. Jan 25, 2021 at 12:34 PM
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    Sorry, not buying what you're selling. Every other vehicle on the road has more weight in the back than a pickup truck. A couple hundred lbs in the bed even behind the axle is not going to send you out of control. People tow with more than 200lbs on the hitch, which if I remember correctly is behind the rear axle.
     
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  9. Jan 25, 2021 at 12:35 PM
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    If you were a little closer, I’d have you price me the soft top! If you’d sell it separately...
     
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  10. Jan 25, 2021 at 12:37 PM
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    I do love the softopper!
     
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  11. Jan 25, 2021 at 12:41 PM
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    Would you sell it separately?
     
  12. Jan 25, 2021 at 12:53 PM
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    Now ya blew it. Got it keep it apple to apples. Cant compare a truck to car, van, hot rod etc. and when towing also introduced a 3rd axle etc. but y’all keep pissing on each other it’s good entertainment.
     
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  13. Jan 25, 2021 at 12:55 PM
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    OK, let me just say, that I do not disagree that the weight behind the axle would effectively lift the front thereby decreasing traction at the front wheels and therefore steerability as well. I'm just saying weight at the tailgate would effectively provide more traction at the rear (drive wheels) than the same weight placed at the cab. Have someone stand in the bed near the cab and measure the change in the height of your rear bumper off the ground. Then do the same with that person standing in the bed near the tailgate. The rear end is gonna sink more the further back the weight is - meaning more weight felt by the axle - leverage. In any case, whether you agree or not, I hope we can agree that since we are only talking about 200 lbs of sand and not 1000 lbs, that these effects are all negligible and therefore insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
     
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    That's cool man, you do you. You said it was simple physics and while I do agree 3rd/4th grade simple machines are pretty simple, Its kinda in their name.
    Your equation keeps changing every time you post and for that reason I am out. The original argument was adding weight behind or in front of the rear axle for extra traction in low traction situations.

    :D
     
  15. Jan 25, 2021 at 1:10 PM
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    I don't think I keep changing - what equation are you referring to? I stand by my statement - weight behind the rear axle for extra traction.
     
  16. Jan 25, 2021 at 1:18 PM
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    Don't you dare!
     
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    You'll regret it! What bumper are you running? Looks like it is super close to the grille and I like that
     
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    I know I will, its a coastal off-road wield it yourself. Thats why I love it you can make the hoops as tall or short and as close as you want
     
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    Im going to look into those a little more now. Thanks
     
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  20. Jan 25, 2021 at 1:38 PM
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    They are awesome. And about 500$ and get to your house in a week
     
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