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What's Toyota's counter move with GM?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by Muskwa, Nov 21, 2013.

  1. Nov 21, 2013 at 2:25 PM
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    Muskwa

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  2. Nov 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM
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    They probably are not going to do anything. Still really no competition.
     
  3. Nov 21, 2013 at 3:07 PM
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    I'm not going to buy a Colorado or anything else GM makes. I still remember the 1980s and the GM failures from that era. GM has lost my trust forever.
     
  4. Nov 21, 2013 at 3:24 PM
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    Admittedly I am very curious to see how these trucks pan out as far as what they look like in person and early impressions of quality and reliability. The rumor I have seen in the press is that 2016 will bring a turbodiesel option.

    While GM is definitely not known for their quality, the frame rust issue that is starting to come into focus on the early 2G Tacomas is making me slightly weary as a 2013 owner. I am very curious to see how Toyota handles the issue. I think that could be a turning point for people in the Northeast at least who are affected but don't desire a full size truck.

    I'm sure I'm going to get picked apart for saying this but I think that the double cab Colorado in that reveal is a good looking truck. It looks a little less awkward than the Tacoma DCSB.

    I suppose we will see what the time brings.
     
  5. Nov 21, 2013 at 3:25 PM
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    StZu

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    Still a Chevy, no matter what they do.
     
  6. Nov 21, 2013 at 3:42 PM
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    The fuckin announcer can't even speak properly...

    Wouldn't touch that truck with a 10' pole.

    :puke:
     
  7. Nov 21, 2013 at 3:45 PM
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    Next move? Continue to outsell the competition.:eek:
     
  8. Nov 21, 2013 at 3:49 PM
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    A step above the old Colorado, it still doesn't match the styling of the 2nd gen tacoma. Colorado's have always been sized smaller in comparison to the tacoma. This looks no different.
     
  9. Nov 21, 2013 at 3:54 PM
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    Toyota has no choice but to come up with an answer. This new Colorado is such a game-changer that doing nothing could be dangerous for Toyota's Tacoma sales, which the company DOES covet.

    I would look for some Tacoma improvements in the next couple years.
     
  10. Nov 21, 2013 at 4:17 PM
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    And don't forget the 90's. I had a 94 S10 that had it's engine replaced at 20 k miles and tranny at 45 k miles. A new generation of truck buyers will learn with a new generation of a GM truck. Unreliability and typical poor GM quality. I can see the rebates now.
     
  11. Nov 21, 2013 at 4:19 PM
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    But if you look there are similarities to the 2nd Generation(2012+).
     
  12. Nov 21, 2013 at 4:45 PM
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    Toyota is not gonna do anything based off a Colorado!!Here are Colorado sales compared to Toyota you thing they care I don't think so!!
    Year
    Toyota Tacoma
    U.S. Sales
    Toyota Tacoma
    Canadian Sales
    2002
    151,960
    n/a
    2003
    154,154
    n/a
    2004
    152,933
    2836
    2005
    168,831
    6388
    2006
    178,351
    9345
    2007
    173,238
    9477
    2008
    144,655
    9673
    2009
    111,824
    9082
    2010
    106,198
    8111
    2011
    110,705
    7711
    2012
    141,365
    9904
    2013 YTD *
    134,123
    8956Year
    Chevrolet Colorado
    U.S. Sales
    Chevrolet Colorado
    Canadian Sales
    2002
    150,992
    n/a
    2003
    140,108
    n/a
    2004
    127,489
    5919
    2005
    128,508
    6174
    2006
    93,880
    6538
    2007
    75,716
    6239
    2008
    54,346
    4586
    2009
    32,413
    2838
    2010
    24,642
    3961
    2011
    31,026
    2694
    2012
    36,840
    1445
    2013 YTD *
    3404
    101




     
  13. Nov 21, 2013 at 4:46 PM
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    the new Sierra is sick though
     
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    Pretty much. I'd say the diesel fappers will swap to the new chebby then come back to a taco within the same year.
     
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    Continue to laugh all the way to the bank like they have been doing.
     
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    Probably right. Another rash of buyers remorse threads in our future I suspect.
     
  17. Nov 21, 2013 at 4:55 PM
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    I think GM actually had "OK" trucks back in the 80's... Early 80's, that is.

    1988 was the year that changed Chev/GM permanently, IMHO. The year they intro'd the new 1/2 ton.

    It, and all the other GM vehicles, began a steady downward spiral of quality & reliability.

    I loved my '84 S-10 4x4 reg-cab short-box, except the vacuum-assisted 4x4. The rest of the truck was a tank...

    Like SkiWaves8 said, all Toyota has to do is NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.

    They have the compact truck market hemmed-in & locked-the-fuck-down...!

    :)
     
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    Bone stock for now....
    They'll react when market share loss warrants it, which will be much later rather than sooner, if at all.
     
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    From the pictures I have seen it does look better than a Nissan Frontier in my opinion so it has that going for it.
     
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    If it's priced right and obtains good fuel economy, I'm sure Toyota will see a loss in sales here.

    Don't get me wrong, the Tacoma is a really good truck, damn this thing is a dinosaur. Even though it is an old design it still retains good sale volume and retains its value extremely well. Part of that being Toyota hasn't change much of anything on it since 2005.

    One of the things that hurt the Colorado when it was first introduced was due to the competition it was built for. GM went after the first generation tacos. Little did they know Nissan and Toyota were bringing a mid-size truck to the market to compete in the compact segment. Of course they had their problems (I do not know what they are nor do I care) but needless to say they were out gunned from the get go.

    I believe GM is on the right track with this truck. They pulled the Colorado of the shelf and really researched what the consumers want in this segment. They have introduced a truck that has risen the bar in the mid size category.
    Toyota will have no choice but to take note as I believe this will be a pretty good seller. Heck, for the past five+ years there was really only two options out there. The Ranger was dead in the water and the GM's didn't really have a chance to shine.

    So what's Toyota's move? I couldn't tell you anymore. I HOPE they make an impressive response to the colorado, but knowing Toyota they will sit back and wait four more years... much like the Tundra.
     
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