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Why no Hill Start Assist on manual trannys?

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by MountainEarth, Mar 13, 2011.

  1. Apr 15, 2011 at 1:47 AM
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    MountainEarth

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    What kind of vehicle are you talking about?
     
  2. Apr 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM
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  3. Apr 15, 2011 at 7:41 PM
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    I think you hit the nail in the head with that. Maybe they added it to do exactly that.
     
  4. Apr 15, 2011 at 7:48 PM
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    Handbrake works fine. Wouldn't even need that if the electronic throttle didn't have that delay built into it.
     
  5. Apr 15, 2011 at 7:52 PM
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    Being a Man works fine too. If I can do SF hills without parking brakes and shit, you all can too.


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  6. Apr 15, 2011 at 9:41 PM
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    Yeah yeah .. your dick is bigger than mine. Blah blah. Like I said, it has nothing to do with not being able to drive a stick. Hell, we don't need A-TRAC or LSDs or lockers either? Or for that matter mud or snow tires. Everything's a crutch to someone who prefers more of a challenge.

    I'm reminded of Patagonia founder Yvon Chouinard who used to free climb totally naked, without clothing, ropes or footwear because he believed it was all crutches, and all separating man from raw skill and primal nature. That is until he tore up his feet enough. Funny how quickly the whole he-man warrior thing fades when your feet are chopped up.

    No, it's not a necessary feature. But given that the sensors already exist, it seems like an easy add.
     
  7. Apr 15, 2011 at 9:57 PM
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    I'm confused. Is this a manual or auto TRD that we're talking about? Because the manual has no hill start assist function. The auto does, but if it's an auto, it shouldn't be killing your engine.
     
  8. Apr 15, 2011 at 10:03 PM
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    My Subaru 4WD wagon back 25 years ago had hill start... Just tap the brake and the brake holds the car until you release the clutch as you depress the gas and move ahead.
     
  9. Apr 15, 2011 at 10:05 PM
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    Auto that why the OP was asking why it wasn't on the manual.
     
  10. Apr 15, 2011 at 10:12 PM
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    Yeah ... I'm the OP :) But why would hill start assist stall the engine in an automatic? That was the part that was confusing to me. Never heard of that happening.
     
  11. Apr 15, 2011 at 11:11 PM
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    Lol. Hello OP.:wave: I couldn't see who it was when I was on my phone.

    I have stalled an auto before. If you are on a hill in 4wd low and you roll back the torque convertor will spin fast enough to push the fluid the wrong way through the engine side of the convertor and slow the engine down enough to stall it.
     
  12. Apr 16, 2011 at 12:26 AM
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    for the record, i have none of those a trac, lsds, or lockers. I dont consider it a crutch, i consider it a diaper.
     
  13. Apr 16, 2011 at 1:32 AM
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    LOL. Well I'm old. I need diapers.
     
  14. Apr 16, 2011 at 4:00 AM
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  15. Apr 16, 2011 at 7:11 AM
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    why would they u big sissy
     
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    Yeah. I have it, so its obviously an auto.. I said it does not work... thats why its NOT in the manual in my first post. As in, it does not even work on the auto. My engine dies because the truck is going backward while in gear. I dont see what is so confusing about this. You let off the brake and the car rolls backward a foot... then it pulses a brake... thats not working. Working would be letting off brake and NOT rolling backward a foot before activation. After 3 pulses it does not work... free rolls backward, killing the engine.
     
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