Why pick 2016 Tacoma DCLB over F150 DC (supercrew)

If you need the room power and mpg get the f150 with 3.5 eco boost. Zero problems with my 2014, after I drilled the 1/16 inch hole in the cac. Driving 65 mph average 24 mpg. Unbelievable power out of that v6. I would say 2017 is going to be a really good year for the f150.

 

Not to jack the thread, but care to explain what this is all about? I have a 2014 3.5EB and never heard of this.

 

What part

 

Just noticed you highlighted it. The hole is for all the moisture and junk that gets trapped in your cac. Without this hole to let all that gunk out your trunk could go into limp mode or worse. What happens is say you want to get on the highway or around someone quick or are pulling a trailer heavy load. Well when you floor your truck hard enough and trust me I know from experience, all that water oily junk in the bottom of your cac, because that's where all of this sits at the lowest point in your cac. Will get sucked up into your intake. If your lucky your truck only goes into limp mode letting you on go about 35 mph. Worse case you hydroloc your motor, or you get rear ended by someone because you won't be able to get out of the way. I will say this hole cured all of my problems with zero side effects and truck runs a lot better.

 

So seeing as you maybe more informed than me at this point...did you ever have the shudder issue before, or was this just preventative maintenance? Its one of those things I am tempted to do because after watching a quick video, the amount of shit that came out was unbelievable. BUT, it seems like Ford would have designed their entire cooling system to be as efficient as possible

I know older SAABs and even VWs had a weep hole in the intercooler so its not a new concept, just a new concept to me to add a weep hole in an entirely closed system that was designed that way.

 

Yeah had the shudder and limp mode. When I drilled the hole I had a lot of water drain out. They say ford can't drill a hole because of environmental reasons. I wouldn't hesitate one bit to drill the hole, especially if this ever happened to you. I drive mainly all highway to work, and usually only drive conservative. Which builds up a lot of moisture as I found out. There was couple of guys on the f150 forum always pushing there catch cans. I was considering them, then found a guy just saying drilling a hole in the cac would cure this problem. Catch cans cost around 400.00 plus and you still need to drill the hole because they don't take care of the problem. The drill hole is free and works perfectly, if for whatever reason you don't like it just put a screw and plug it up.

 

I would love to have that 3.5 ecoboost in the new 16 Tacoma, but in all honesty that is way to much motor for that truck.

 

I say drill the hole, you will thank the guy that came up with this mod.

 

This is mostly an issue in more humid climates. Ford's solution was to install a block plate in front of the CAC. Most remove the block plate and drill a small hole to drain out any condensation that may build up. It is a good idea regardless to clean out the CAC every once in awhile. This isn't an issue that will affect everyone. Many owners may never experience an issue.

 

Won't tie up the ops post, all of this can be googled. For his original question I decided to lease a 2015 Tacoma off-road for 3 years. Then go with a 2018 Tacoma they should have any issues correct by then.

 

Funny how we all get worked up over dumb vehicles....hey fellas, if it has tits or wheels it is going to give a trouble!

 

No they aren't. You can get a full size for less than a Taco. That doesn't mean you can get an F150 King Ranch or a F350 Platinum for less than a Taco. But you can get a full-size for cheaper.

I think he gave up a bit early on the F150. Most dealers don't know about the 16's because they haven't even started making them yet. The 2015s came out so late I bet they are baking up the build dates for the 16's. The first round may not even be made till January.
A lot of Toyota dealers still don't know jack about the 16 Tacomas for crying out loud.

I was offered a 2015 F150 XLT Sport White Super Crew 6.5ft bed 3.5L EcoBoost (I would get the V8 today) back in August for $34K before taxes and my trade. MSRP on the truck ~$46K. I bet they are bending on the prices even more now. While I understand the OP is going for a 16', many of the rebates can be locked in for a 16 model. Just work with a high volume Ford Dealer. You may have to travel a ways to get to one depending on your area but the high volume dealers usually work with you better.

 

Agreed. You throw down $500 bucks with most Ford dealers and they lock in the rebates. Then again, it sounds like his Toyota dealer is treating him well. Just that alone is enough to sway most peoples decisions.

 

well, no....you can't get a fullsize cheaper than a Taco....if we are not going to compare apples to apples, you can get a 4x2 4cyl Taco for 25k. you can get a 4x4 sr5 access cab for 30k. once again we are only comparing top of the line Tacos to bottom of the line full sizes, for the most part..... your 34k F150 is offer is pretty damn unusual.

 

Yeah, he probably should of shopped around...seems like they have pretty good deals here on the XLT's.

http://www.corwinfordnampa.com/new-inventory/index.htm?model=F-150&sortBy=internetPrice+asc&

Seems like we have a bunch of Ford dealers for such a small area, think I pass 3 of them on my 30 minute commute.

 

F150 Starts at $26K so about the same as the Taco, I have seen the Ram 2WD base truck go for under $20K here on the lot.

$34K F150 isn't unusual. You get quite the few options in a XLT...while they don't exactly mirror what it is in the Tacoma, but it is close. Might even get a little more in the F150.

 

It is hard because of how Ford does their trim levels and how Toyota does theirs.
The lowest level double cab V6 with a long bed I can get is a SR5 @ 33K. The lowest level Ford I can get with a double cab and a longer bed is an XL at around 26-28K (with a V8, since there is no standard V6 option with a double cab and a 6.5ft bed).

You can get a full size cheaper than a mid. Fact. Regardless of trim an F150 is still a full and a Taco is still a mid. You do make it confusing when you want to make everything equal in terms of trim. Ford does nearly everything custom, Toyota does not. So you can't compare based on that. And the XL trim on a Ford arguably has more features to add than a Limited Taco. So if you want to compare based on trims, Tacoma loses that battle even more.

 

Truth of the matter is that @MikeD72 wants a mid sized truck. He is coming up with his own justifications for the truck on top of the simpler common justifications. Instead of sitting here trying to make a case that he can get a superior mid sized truck for way less than the OTD price of a F150, maybe he could be instead set up a thread where he can discuss the trucks he mentioned? Or even just have the OP the title of this thread to "I want the 2016 Tacoma, what other truck could I buy with that money ?" Arguing over F150 pricing that has pretty much been hammered out on here sounds silly when the F150 isn't even on the list of trucks he is interested in.

 

Okay, I see your point. And I guess that does make sense, considering Ford is a massive producer of trucks. I think maybe what ticks some people off is that the reason most people are drawn to Tacos is because they want nothing to do with Ford and full size in general.. Same way when the 4R and Pathfinder came out there was a huge population that jumped on them because they had no interest Broncos, Rams, Suburbans, etc.

So I find myself defending Tacoma over price for really no reason at all. LOL

 

nailed it...see my last response, which i was typing as you typed this....lol