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Winch ?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by 1999tacotrd, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. Jul 9, 2009 at 7:48 PM
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    1999tacotrd

    1999tacotrd [OP] 1999 Taco TRD xtracab 3.4 V6 4x4

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    Hi i was wondering if its ok to use one of the small 2000 lb winchs on a toyota 4x4? Has any one here every did it? I plan to go mudding but nothing to extereme and i was needing a cheap winch w/o breaking my pockets and i figerd one of this would work. The cheapest 9000lb i found was $300 new as to a 2000lb is $50 new.
     
  2. Jul 9, 2009 at 7:51 PM
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    No I'm pretty sure it won't work.

    Your truck weighs more than 2000lbs and trying to move that being stuck, you'll either burn up the motor or snap the line but you won't move.
     
  3. Jul 9, 2009 at 7:52 PM
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  4. Jul 9, 2009 at 7:55 PM
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    wat?
    300 for a 9k winch isnt bad at all. they say u should take ur trucks gross weight and multiply it by 1.5 and that should be about right for the winch. second gens need an 8.5k winch at least
     
  6. Jul 9, 2009 at 8:31 PM
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    $300 for a 9000lb winch? where the hell you shoppin? you have to tell us!!!!!
     
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    get a hand winch (well, come-a-long is what you'd need) if you cant afford a powered winch. sure its more work, but just get like a 3 foot pipe to fit over the handle of the come-a-long and it will make it easier.
     
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    sirius satilite radio, more on the way when i get more money. oh ya removed the secondary filter
    thats a good deal on a 9k wincnh weres the site at?
     
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    they where on ebay for like 309 but i dont think that include shipping. and im sure its a china brand not a warn or anything. Also dont habor fright sale them for like $300?

    yeah i was thinking about just useing a come-a-long im sure with it a friend and the truck in drive i should be able to get out most ez mud holes.

    its on a 88 pickup thats my mudding toy :)
     
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    last time i went wheeling i got stuck in the mud. used a come-a-long to get me out. i didn't need to be in the truck or anything, just put your truck in neutral and the come-a-long will be able to pull you out.
     
  11. Jul 10, 2009 at 10:40 AM
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    It seems like most HF tools are hit or miss. Some are great, some are complete garbage.

    After I got stuck, I myself started looking for come-a-longs. I saw the HF one, but it seems like a 8000 pound working capacity for $30 doesn't seem like it will last, especially given HF's repuatation.

    Here's the one I was looking at getting:
    http://www.arizonatools.com/tools/come-alongs-and-cable-pullers/detail/AZT662/

    There's ~70 user reviews, and pretty much everybody loves it. Plus, it's double geared compared to HF's which is single geared, so the one at AZ tools will be easier to winch with.
     
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    come-a-longs are great and all...but if theres any hills involved...i'd want an electric winch
     
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    Really a winch is where its at and you dont want to go cheap when it comes to a winch, its not the area to try and fudge alittle.

    on another note...ive been looking into the warn hydraulic ones that use your powersteering unit...anyone got any info on this. for instance will it work with our power steering, will i have to get a bigger powersteering pump, will there be any connection mods needed etc... It seems to me it would be worth it, you could run that puppy all day and not worry about anything vs the electric side of things.

    ive also looked into the warn dual that is 12000 but it has an aircompressor on it...any thoughts on that as well?
     
  15. Jul 10, 2009 at 6:10 PM
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    I'd be carfeful about the off brand winches. Back when I was in a 4x4 club with a built Samurai I had, one of the guys had a Harbor Freight 8K winch on his Jeep, burnt it up the first time in use, they replaced it and it burned up again.
    The only Hydraulic powered winches I have been around are the MileMarker, as long as the engine runs it will pull.
    When looking at winches, remember you can use snatch blocks and double line it to make 2x the power of the winch, as long as you have enough cable.
    Personally I would not take a chance on the china made winches, which are comparable in price to USA made handcrank winches.
    Thats just my opinion.
     
  16. Jul 11, 2009 at 8:07 AM
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    Yeah I work with 15000lb winches and 28,000lb vehicles all the time at work. pulleys and shackles are a must. There is actually a formula for recoveries. Not sure if anyone is familiar with it. Mire has a 3 levels and they change the weigth of all vehicles accordingly. This actually works for any vehicle. You can know with a little bit of math exactly what it will take to recover the vehicle.

    WxM-RF+TR=Resistance
    W= Weight
    M= Mire
    RF= Resistance reducing Factors
    TR= Tackle Resistance

    THis obviously takes a little explaining if youre not familiar with it. maybe i'll make a thread for people new to recovering.
     
  17. Jul 11, 2009 at 8:35 AM
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    That's a great idea. If you do a good write up about the formula and recovering using snatch blocks/tackle we will gladly make it a stickied thread for you.
     
  18. Jul 11, 2009 at 8:42 AM
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    +1.

    I can figure out weight...but everything else....lost.
     
  19. Jul 11, 2009 at 9:44 AM
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    yeah i'm halfway done right now. it is a class that i teach to the Officers and Staff NCOs but is with our LAVs so i'm converting it to TACO Format... I'll have it posted by this evening. got to go ammo hunting right now. which by the way, what the hell is up with the ammo shortage in this nation. everyone is dry!!!! its like we are getting ready for WWIII
     
  20. Jul 11, 2009 at 11:07 AM
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    wat?

    she sheep are being herded into thinking guns are going away...lol. will like to see the results of this winch scheme
     
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