1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Wiring suggestions for bed lights...

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by Veccster, Aug 5, 2009.

  1. Veccster

    Veccster [OP] bass turds

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Member:
    #8407
    Messages:
    2,090
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Pittsburgh - The City of Champions
    Vehicle:
    2009 DC V6 TRDsport
    5100's all around - fronts at 1.75", 265/70/17 Bridgestone Revo 2, HID headlights and fog lights, factory skid plate, ss exhaust tip, tube steps, Access roll-up tonneau cover, Redline hood struts, 6 D-rings, seat MagLite, LED dome, fumoto oil drain, DTRL, fog light anytime, Kenwood/Clarion speakers, Pop-N-Lock 5300, LED bed lights and a few other things...
    Thanks (and rep) to anyone who helps me complete this mod.

    I am going to install LED rope lights in the bed of my truck. I know there are write-ups but I couldn't find one with the info I needed.

    I want 2 rope lights (one on each side), a toggle switch in the cubby hole and a switch in the cab. But I'm not sure how to wire 2 switches?

    Also, is there a hot in the bed of the truck that I can run to? That is preferred over running all the way to the battery.
     
  2. Evil Monkey

    Evil Monkey There's an evil monkey in my truck

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2007
    Member:
    #2352
    Messages:
    8,388
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Robert
    Escondido, CA
    Vehicle:
    07 4x4 DC SR5 TRD Off-road
    Weathertech front & rear mats, rear suspension TSB, Toytec AAL for TSB, Hi-Lift Jack, Bilstein 5100 & Toytec Adjustable coilovers, Built Right UCAs, KMC XD 795 Hoss Wheels, Definity Dakota MTs 285/75R16, Leer XR, Thule Tracker II & Thule MOAB basket
    Since the LEDs are fairly low amperage you could just run the power wire for them through the switches. I assume you want to turn the lights on with either switch so you'd want them in parallel. If you want both switches to be on before the lights will come on, put them in series (power to one switch, output for that switch becomes the input to the second switch. Output from the second switch becomes the power for the lights).

    My explanation below is for parallel. You can run power from a small sized fuse tap on the accessories circuit (available in an auto parts electrical section). It'll require that the keys be in the car for the lights to turn on (prevents accidently leaving them on or kids playing with the cubby switch to turn them on). The power wire from the fuse tap will be split into two wires before going to the switches. After the split wire in your cab switch. Then on the other end of the cab switch, run the wire to the bed. Run the split power wires under the door jam track, under the carpet to the access port beneath the driver's seat, then back to the bed under the truck. The wire that was not connected to the cab switch gets connected to the cubby switch. The wire from the other end of the cubby switch gets spliced back into the cab switch wire and that wire goes to power the lights. I grounded my bedlights to a bolt behind the taillight assembly.


    Bedlight.GIF
     
  3. Veccster

    Veccster [OP] bass turds

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Member:
    #8407
    Messages:
    2,090
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Pittsburgh - The City of Champions
    Vehicle:
    2009 DC V6 TRDsport
    5100's all around - fronts at 1.75", 265/70/17 Bridgestone Revo 2, HID headlights and fog lights, factory skid plate, ss exhaust tip, tube steps, Access roll-up tonneau cover, Redline hood struts, 6 D-rings, seat MagLite, LED dome, fumoto oil drain, DTRL, fog light anytime, Kenwood/Clarion speakers, Pop-N-Lock 5300, LED bed lights and a few other things...
    That is EXACTLY what I needed!

    However, if I wanted to turn the lights on w/out the keys in the ignition, is there a wire or another spot I can tap in?
    I will use these when I come back from dirt bike riding or snowboarding and it would help to turn the lights on w/out digging out my keys. It would increase the risk of running down my battery but I may accept that risk - I'm not sure yet.
     
  4. alextdunn

    alextdunn Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2009
    Member:
    #20455
    Messages:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    alex
    san Diego
    Vehicle:
    05, 4cly, base, Xtra cab, 5 lug lift
    ready lift 5 Lug lift, bed lights, 400 watt inverter, scan gauge II, AFE pro Dry s, second air filter removed
    the only way i know is strait from the positive batt. terminal.
    pick up an inline 10 or 15 Amp fuse(depending on your light demand) from your local Auto shop or radio shack.(make sure it is for 12V Dc)
    The thing you have to remember with running the switches in parallel is that you will be able to turn them on from any switch but both switches will need to be off in order to kill the power to the lights.
    some thing to keep in mind.
     
  5. Veccster

    Veccster [OP] bass turds

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Member:
    #8407
    Messages:
    2,090
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Pittsburgh - The City of Champions
    Vehicle:
    2009 DC V6 TRDsport
    5100's all around - fronts at 1.75", 265/70/17 Bridgestone Revo 2, HID headlights and fog lights, factory skid plate, ss exhaust tip, tube steps, Access roll-up tonneau cover, Redline hood struts, 6 D-rings, seat MagLite, LED dome, fumoto oil drain, DTRL, fog light anytime, Kenwood/Clarion speakers, Pop-N-Lock 5300, LED bed lights and a few other things...
    Yeah, I figured the battery would be the only way to pick up a constant hot.

    And I do know that the switches both need to be off to turn the lights off. That means I can't turn them on in the bed and off in the truck. Is there any way around that?

    If not, the ability to turn them on with either switch is more important.
     
  6. Veccster

    Veccster [OP] bass turds

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Member:
    #8407
    Messages:
    2,090
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Pittsburgh - The City of Champions
    Vehicle:
    2009 DC V6 TRDsport
    5100's all around - fronts at 1.75", 265/70/17 Bridgestone Revo 2, HID headlights and fog lights, factory skid plate, ss exhaust tip, tube steps, Access roll-up tonneau cover, Redline hood struts, 6 D-rings, seat MagLite, LED dome, fumoto oil drain, DTRL, fog light anytime, Kenwood/Clarion speakers, Pop-N-Lock 5300, LED bed lights and a few other things...
    OK, after some more research, I think I may go a slightly different route. If I can find and use 3-pole switches, I can turn the lights on in the cubby and off in the cab. There will be no set direction on the switches for on and off but that is OK.

    Here is what I came up with:

    [​IMG]

    If SW1 is in position A and SW2 is in position B- no path for current and the lights are off. Now move SW1 to position B- current flows through SW1-B and SW2-B, turning the lights on. Now switch SW2 to A- no path for current, lights are off.
     
  7. slickyd

    slickyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2009
    Member:
    #18130
    Messages:
    305
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Alex City, AL
    Vehicle:
    03 PreRunner SR5
    how did that wiring work out for you cause I don't see how the first switch and can turn it on and the second one turn if off. It doesn't look that way to me?
     
  8. Veccster

    Veccster [OP] bass turds

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Member:
    #8407
    Messages:
    2,090
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Pittsburgh - The City of Champions
    Vehicle:
    2009 DC V6 TRDsport
    5100's all around - fronts at 1.75", 265/70/17 Bridgestone Revo 2, HID headlights and fog lights, factory skid plate, ss exhaust tip, tube steps, Access roll-up tonneau cover, Redline hood struts, 6 D-rings, seat MagLite, LED dome, fumoto oil drain, DTRL, fog light anytime, Kenwood/Clarion speakers, Pop-N-Lock 5300, LED bed lights and a few other things...
    I just got the second strip of lights off ebay this week. Going to the beach next week and plan to install the following week. I have just been planning where everything will go.

    As for the wiring...it will work. If SW1 is on A and SW2 is on B, the circuit is open and lights are off. If EITHER SW1 or SW2 is switched (both A or both B), the circuit will close and the lights go on. I had to use 3-pole switches.

    I am real excited about this setup because I can turn them on in the bed and turn them off when I enter the cab - or vice versa. I'll be sure to follow up with some pictures once the installation is complete.
     
  9. slickyd

    slickyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2009
    Member:
    #18130
    Messages:
    305
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Alex City, AL
    Vehicle:
    03 PreRunner SR5
    cool man cant wait to see the pictures
     
  10. alextdunn

    alextdunn Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2009
    Member:
    #20455
    Messages:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    alex
    san Diego
    Vehicle:
    05, 4cly, base, Xtra cab, 5 lug lift
    ready lift 5 Lug lift, bed lights, 400 watt inverter, scan gauge II, AFE pro Dry s, second air filter removed
    That should work just fine.
    looks good. cant wait to see pics
     
  11. ubermx5

    ubermx5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2008
    Member:
    #6783
    Messages:
    264
    Santa Clara CA
    Vehicle:
    98 2.4 5 speed
    K&N Air filter
    I would say take the time and write this up.
    Fully document your install...

    it sounds cool...

    Gromits are your friends
     
  12. totmacher

    totmacher Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2009
    Member:
    #22430
    Messages:
    711
    Gender:
    Male
    TN (memphis mostly)
    Vehicle:
    05 PreRunner Access Cab TRD Sport
    BHLM, Flowmaster 50 series, TRD CAI, Hoen all weather fog bulbs, window tint, LED interior lights (cupholder & floor), exterior LED courtesy lights. OME/Dakar lift. 50W reverse lights. Painted wheels.
    Just curious, could you get power from one of the trailer wires behind the bumper?
     
  13. Veccster

    Veccster [OP] bass turds

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Member:
    #8407
    Messages:
    2,090
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Pittsburgh - The City of Champions
    Vehicle:
    2009 DC V6 TRDsport
    5100's all around - fronts at 1.75", 265/70/17 Bridgestone Revo 2, HID headlights and fog lights, factory skid plate, ss exhaust tip, tube steps, Access roll-up tonneau cover, Redline hood struts, 6 D-rings, seat MagLite, LED dome, fumoto oil drain, DTRL, fog light anytime, Kenwood/Clarion speakers, Pop-N-Lock 5300, LED bed lights and a few other things...

    I have asked around and I believe the only power wire in the trailer harness is switched (meaning it is only on when the keys are turned to ACC or ON). I need to turn the lights on without the keys in the ignition.
     
  14. Larzzzz

    Larzzzz Grande' Ricardo

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2009
    Member:
    #21609
    Messages:
    56
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Larry
    MA
    Aux back up lights, Bed lights, Re-located trailer plug, Good dooby, a.k.a. jumper cable mod
    3 way switches is what I think you mean. Having only 3 terminals. A 3 pole switch would have at least 6 terminals. 9 to do what you want. You'd still only use 3.
     
  15. Veccster

    Veccster [OP] bass turds

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Member:
    #8407
    Messages:
    2,090
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Pittsburgh - The City of Champions
    Vehicle:
    2009 DC V6 TRDsport
    5100's all around - fronts at 1.75", 265/70/17 Bridgestone Revo 2, HID headlights and fog lights, factory skid plate, ss exhaust tip, tube steps, Access roll-up tonneau cover, Redline hood struts, 6 D-rings, seat MagLite, LED dome, fumoto oil drain, DTRL, fog light anytime, Kenwood/Clarion speakers, Pop-N-Lock 5300, LED bed lights and a few other things...
To Top