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with a 2.5 inch lift do i need upper control arms?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by jake slatnick, Nov 2, 2009.

  1. Nov 2, 2009 at 8:30 PM
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    jake slatnick

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    im buying a bilstein 2.5 inch lift kit, do i need to also buy upper control arms? i am not going to be doing much if any offroading so would these have any importance because i know they are recomended.

    any advice on why i should or shouldn't get the upper control arms?
     
  2. Nov 2, 2009 at 8:31 PM
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    Use the search function. Lots of threads
     
  4. Nov 2, 2009 at 8:35 PM
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    Your not going to need the UCAs, but at 2.5" lift, ur truck will want to feel like its floating on the road, thats from when its lifted that high ur truck will not have the same stearing geometry as it did when it was stock.
    The after market UCAs will fix any allignment issuse.
     
  5. Nov 2, 2009 at 8:36 PM
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    Like he said, u will find ur answer on here
     
  6. Nov 2, 2009 at 8:39 PM
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    so all it does is effect my turning? its not going to wear out my tires quicker or do anything bad to my truck?
    basically why is it worth or not worth spending the 450 dollars
     
  7. Nov 2, 2009 at 8:40 PM
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    It will definitely wear out the tires. If you dont want that and you want your alignment to be correct then get uca's.
     
  8. Nov 2, 2009 at 8:42 PM
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    how much faster do you think there going to wear out?
     
  9. Nov 2, 2009 at 8:44 PM
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    Depends on how much you drive. The sides will wear faster though. not the whole tire.
     
  10. Nov 2, 2009 at 8:45 PM
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  12. Nov 3, 2009 at 7:51 AM
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    This is new news to me, so the spacers will cause caster/camber issues huh?

    I HAVE read lots of posts about lifts on this website and I am fairly proficient when it comes to suspension and mods but I was not aware that the spacers would cause issues resulting in un-even tire wear.

    Now that I know this, I will re-consider on my purchase. (I was thinking about spacers)

    I am assuming this issues DOES NOT occour if a coil over shock is purcahsed does it??? I realize they are far more expensive but I think I would rather go that route than spacers and UCA's. Does any 2WD guys ever go with the Camburg 4" Spindles?

    Sorry for the thread jack, but I feel this question is relevent to the subject.

    Thanks!
     
  13. Nov 3, 2009 at 7:57 AM
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    It's the lift itself that causes the alignment issues, not the means of providing lift. Coils vs. spacers does not matter.

    The suspension is designed to work a certain way at a certain ride height. You change the ride height, you change the suspension geometry. The lift results in the lower arms sticking out farther than the upper arms. New UCAs are physically wider than stock ones and push the top of the spindle out, which helps correct alignment issues.

    Please search.

     
  14. Nov 3, 2009 at 8:06 AM
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    Ok, I am following you now. So it would be safe to say that with almost any kind of lift you have to get a UCA??? And just for my own piece of mind, this does not happen on a Ford/Chevy b/c the lower control arms have adjustment cams that you can use to pull the lower control arm in to compensate for the new geometry.

    I think I got it now.
     
  15. Oct 22, 2017 at 7:22 PM
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    My truck (1998 Tacoma Limited) had a lift on it when I bought it. I'm not for sure weather or not the UCA's were changed. I'm guessing not. When I first got the truck it had 16'S on it and when I turned a corner my front mud flaps were torn right off. I figured it was the big tires, but it as never felt right turning regardless of the tire size I had on it. I have ran several different sizes trying to figure it out. . I have gone through 2 sets inner/outer tie rods and 3 sets upper and lower ball joints in 7 years.
    I am not a mechanic and really knew nothing about anything when I bought the truck. . I remember someone saying the control arm seemed to short or something like that when I had the ball joints done the last time, thats what made me think that that is what the problem is.
    I haven't driven it in a year because I refuse to put another set of anything on it until I figure out the reason its wearing like it does.
    My tires also have worn just as described in previous posts.
    Oh & I do have coil over shocks.
     
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    Yes. At or above 2.5" of lift you SHOULD get new UCA's
     
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    The more important question is why are you buying a bilstein lift when you are driving a Pro??
     
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