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would you give up your guns?

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by gupster88, Apr 18, 2010.

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what would you do if the government came to take your guns

  1. hand them over without a fight

    74 vote(s)
    6.7%
  2. over my dead body! im going down firing!

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  1. Apr 18, 2010 at 7:41 AM
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    Dimonback

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    It's difficult not to respond to this. So all I'll only note that the problem is not with what you say, only in how you say it.
     
  2. Apr 18, 2010 at 8:14 AM
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    I would comply with anything my government wishes for me to do!!
    Pay taxes, fill out the census correctly, hand over my firearms.

    The only problem is that terrible boating accident at Lake Powell.
    All were lost in a very deep part of the lake.
    Hopefully when they drain it I will get them back.
     
  3. Apr 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM
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    I would'nt give up my guns. I expect that the'yll be restricted by legislation soon enough. To be honest, I see much bigger issues than gun control going on in the country today.
     
  4. Apr 18, 2010 at 8:31 AM
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    Hell no. It's all goes back to the old saying "guns don't kill poeple, people kill people." janster is right, if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have guns. The black market will explode. Look at what happened with Prohibition and alcohol and crime. Try it with guns and it will be much much worse.

    My solution? Arm everyone. Level the playing field. Have plenty of safety and shooting skills classes. Criminals don't like armed victims. Take away the victims and you move to taking away the crimes. Simple supply and demand.

    One of my favorite quotes from an old TV show - Sledge Hammer!

    Soviet Scientist: In Russia, we practice by shooting dissidents.
    Sledge Hammer: Here we call them liberals.
     
  5. Apr 18, 2010 at 8:33 AM
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  6. Apr 18, 2010 at 8:37 AM
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    I'm not a big gun enthusiast, but I do own one legally & if the govt. tried to take it, it would have been convieniently stolen the previous day.
     
  7. Apr 18, 2010 at 9:10 AM
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    afraid to go to Disney Land ... ?!

    pal, i respectfully suggest laying off the booze, and maybe hanging out with different people

    that is some sensationalized horsesh!t you're dumping all over the post there

    you don't have a very good sense, or rather any sense at all, of the US, and i'd venture to guess you're not well versed in Canada as well

    the last gun store i was in, in BC by the way, had at least 20,000 Tula Arsenal refurbished SKS ... cash and carry

    interestingly enough, there weren't madmen roaming the adjacent streets engaged in mayhem and robbery


    BUT ...


    not too far from the gun store, in scenic HASTINGS, where drugs are legal and accessible to all, roaming hordes of drugged out zombies filled the streets, smoking crack and meth, shooting heroin, screwing in the streets


    you got 25 million people in your whole country, what's that ... 8% of the US population, about the size of California ... ?


    you're welcome to come visit in the next five years, you'll be perfectly safe, no one wants your loonies and toonies
     
  8. Apr 18, 2010 at 9:56 AM
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  9. Apr 18, 2010 at 9:56 AM
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    since when does our government follow the constitution???...they've been changing it for years...eventually it won't even exist anymore and they will have a totally new one....seems our government is full of the worst criminals of them all...political ones

    i bet our forefathers would shoot them the first time they heard them speak...and then say...amend that biotch!!!
     
  10. Apr 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM
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    The only problem with the 2nd amendment is that it involves these idiot human beings. Take away the human and you have no problem. So yes, guns aren't the problem. Drugs aren't either... Neither is unemployment, unfair prosecution or unintended acceleration.

    Its humans.. Most tragedy and misfortune can all be directly linked to dumb ass humans.. The one species that has the "highest" level of development..
     
  11. Apr 18, 2010 at 10:24 AM
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    I don't like anything I'm *told* to do, by anyone, guns? YEAH RIGHT!
     
  12. Apr 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM
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    i was going say to sure but i just cant
    so the only way is from my cold dead hands
     
  13. Apr 18, 2010 at 12:31 PM
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    Not gonna get my guns anytime soon...
     
  14. Apr 18, 2010 at 1:11 PM
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    I was just thinking......Maybe I could superglue one to my hand when I die......Make them have to Work to get it. :D
     
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    i may not give it up then may have to take the hand :D
     
  16. Apr 18, 2010 at 1:14 PM
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  17. Apr 18, 2010 at 1:19 PM
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    Wow, youre so right....... Thats why i keep my Kimber so close...... that thing can go off at any minute. VERY dangerous
     
  18. Apr 18, 2010 at 1:48 PM
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    Good to hear. Keep an eye on it. I hear all the time, Guns are killing people. Be carfull. :p
     
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]I appreciate hearing the thoughts of the Canadian poster, the largest flaw in his logic is the comment that we have had the right to carry for years and are our streets safer? Of course from what he has read (or should that be, what he has been fed?) he believes that they aren't. What he must remember is that our laws vary by state and locality, those areas where guns are allowed for all citizens are far more safe than those where only law enforcement can carry...Of course criminals can carry anywhere...cause they are LAW BREAKERS ![/FONT]

    The following 40 reasons for gun control (tongue in cheek) show just how twisted the logic of the gun grabbers is. I hope our Canadian friend will read these and maybe come away with a different perspective on guns and gun ownership in the USA.

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]40 Reasons For Gun Control[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, & Chicago cops need guns.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control,
    and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing
    increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in
    1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining
    since 1991.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree
    at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with
    a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun
    and a dead rapist at her feet.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense- give
    them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns
    Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p.125).
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns;
    just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer
    for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for
    hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was
    created 130 years later, in 1917.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned
    weapons vehicles buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law,
    is a "state" militia.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right
    of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain
    rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people,"
    and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively,
    and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people
    to keep and bear arm" refers to the state.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should
    ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5thAmendments to that
    Constitution.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army
    has hundreds of thousands of them.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military
    weapons", but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles", because
    they are military weapons.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, finger printing, government
    forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent
    school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware
    stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no
    waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were
    no school shootings.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling
    guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch"
    campaign is responsible social activity.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly,
    and so simple to use that they make murder easy.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to
    learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an
    accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are
    "preying on their fears."
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but
    revert to normal when the weapon is removed.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the
    population supported owning slaves.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon
    of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most
    people will abide by because they can be trusted.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it
    is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for
    self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters,
    but self-defense only justifies bare hands.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution,
    and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor and past president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who
    should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun
    Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN
    arms control summit.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity
    pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and
    therefore need less ammunition.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns
    because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over hand guns that private
    citizens can never hope to obtain.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self-protection because the police are
    there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible
    for their protection.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs,
    who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need
    a gun.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers
    of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion,
    that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from
    Smith & Wesson, that's good.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]39. Trigger locks do not interfere wi[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial]th the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes,
    which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]40. Handgun Control, Inc. says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands."
    Guess what? You have the wrong hands.
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial]Significant portions of this article are excerpted from Michael Z. Williamson's
    excellent and witty piece, "It's amazing what one has to believe to believe
    in gun control" Our thanks go to Michael for his insightful contribution to
    the gun control debate.
    [/FONT]
     
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