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2 Lo mod ideas? (MT if that makes a difference)

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by duckytw, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. Mar 25, 2017 at 11:36 AM
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    duckytw

    duckytw [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Been reading up on this topic ever since I tried out reverse on the 6MT-- no way in hell Id be able to back up on an incline towing or with anything heavy in the bed. For reference, excellent write up here on the 2nd gen:

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2wd-lo-mod.195424/

    And here is the wiring diagrams from aggie
    Grey wire mod 2016

    Is there anything in these that would indicate the same mod wouldnt work on the 3rd gens?

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  2. Mar 25, 2017 at 11:37 AM
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    No it won't work.

    Why can't you back up up hill with a manual?
     
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    I'd also be interested in this if someone figures out how to do it on the third gen.
     
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  4. Mar 25, 2017 at 1:24 PM
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    2lo in reverse would really help not burn the clutch up if you are trying to reverse up hill, especially with a heavy load. You could use 4lo if you are able to go perfectly straight or have a gravel driveway, but any other scenario and you are stuck with slipping your clutch the entire way.
     
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  5. Mar 25, 2017 at 1:25 PM
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    Itll burn up the clutch because the reverse gear is too tall.
     
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    Two things stand out to me.
    -All but a couple wires are different colors. So don't go by that...lol.
    -Wire LG splits and continues to the skid control ECU. It looks like it interlocks there, with the transfer case actuator L4 position and paralled into the 4WD ecu via wire GR.
     
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    It's not that simple. The 3rd gen has an advanced ecu unlike the 2nd gen which is a simple 4wd computer. It's not as simple as crossing wires
     
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    I understand why it is beneficial, but you certainly don't need it. You won't burn the clutch unless you suck bad at driving manual
     
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    There are plenty of situations that a 2low mod would be ideal when navigating complex reverse situations with a trailer especially if an incline is involved. I hope that someone figures this out. I hate slipping the clutch when trying to move slow in reverse.
     
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  10. Mar 25, 2017 at 7:34 PM
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    In his defense I agree that the reverse gear is too tall, and trust me I can drive a stick. I have no problems double clutching correctly, heel toe shifting, and rev matching; not that its necessary in a truck but it's easily done. You need to give it more clutch to not stall in reverse, especially backing up a hill, and you're input isn't helping the thread what so ever.

    All I can say is re-gearing to 4.88 makes it more bearable on the clutch for reversing up hills.
     
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    Why in the world are you double clutching lol. Driving a big rig?
     
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  12. Mar 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM
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    Like i said, not sure if you read it, i said ITS NOT NECESSARY
    I don't do it in this vehicle
     
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    I'm not afraid of killing the clutch just by doing this one time. I'm afraid of unnecessarily shortening the life of the clutch and this would make my life easier. How often do you back a heavy trailer over curbs and through heavily rutted dirt or mud when trying to line up a trailer with a house on a construction site before a driveway is available? There are times that the 2wd Chevy Express won't cut it and times where you don't want the 4wd binding when turning the Taco. I've been pulling trailers and driving a manual for nearly 20 years.
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    Thanks for the advice... I may suck at driving stuck or I may not and it doesn't really faze me. Point is reverse gear is pretty tall and having to use it on an incline with load is not going to be pretty. Sure, I only do it occasionally but I'd rather see what's possible before I'm stuck in that situation again.

    Rear disc brakes aren't necessary either, but I want them.
     
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    I don't listen to tundra owners on tacoma forums. Funny you own a tundra, and your commenting on a manual tacoma thread.

    Ignored.
     
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    Not trying to be mean, but if you are clueless or don't know what you are talking about, maybe you should read more and post less.

    I have no need for 2lo as I have another vehicle I use for towing. But I can absolutely see the need for it in the case given in this thread, and even the automatic would benefit from it.
     
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    I was being sarcastic to your post. When reversing a trailer more than 1/2~3/4 the capacity of the vehicle you have to ride the clutch / slip the torque converter a tremendous amount to control it safely. There are times ill but my 1 ton diesel in 2low for reversing a large trailer. I don't do boat ramps, but I know people who will do the same on boat ramps as well.
     
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    Sooooo....
    Those of us that ARE ultra hard on it and don't intend on always using a more suitable tow vehicle would like to look into what could be a nice solution. This mod has been done on both of the older generation trucks and those that have done this mod on any manual tow vehicle absolutely love it.
     
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    Not worth it? And regearing 2 axles just to achieve this desired affect is? Do you currently tow with a manual that has a low range transfer case?
     
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    I'd like to see the wiring diagrams for the 2nd gen and 3rd gen side by side. Is the wiring for the 4wd system drastically different in the new trucks?
     

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