2011 tsb 4 leaf

I noticed my 2011 came with the 3 leaf and was thinking of calling the dealer to change it to the 4 leaf under the tsb. Does anyone have a picture of their 4 leaf leafs after the tsb was done? Does it ride any diferent?

 

no picture yes rides different

 

There are lots of posts on this just from today alone, the search button is your friend. Just trying to save you a little flaming, from one noob to another.....
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/133425-just-got-rear-leaf-tsb-done-but.html
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/131191-tsb-0359-10-denied-my-2011-a.html

 

Toyota needs to start taking care of the tsb's straight from the factory so people can stop posting questions of the same shit

 

In Canada toyota already does that.

 

so can i get this done if i have a regular cab? or is that an access cab?

 

No.

 

whats the difference? do the reg cabs have better leafs already or something?

 

That's not what their MBAs are telling them. Count how many tacos you see tooling down the road being driven like a Corrolla - nothing in the back. They can save $21.75 in total costs keeping them off. Let's say they have to the TSB for a total reimbursed cost of $574.29. Propably done on 1 per every 1000 trucks built. For this example lets say that they produce 1,000,000 during x number of months.

Total Savings by not installing on every truck: $21,750,000
Total Cost to do the TSBs: $574,290
Total Bottom line profits (pure profit no cost of getting it): 21,175,710.

Lets say they do 10 out of every 1000 trucks (which I highly doubt!)

Total Savings not installing: $21,750,000
Total TSB cost $5,742,900
Total Bottom line profits: $16,007,100

Hell with that kind of profit, they can cut off a lot more gas pedals!!!

 

What's the 21.75? Is that the cost of the extra leaf?

 

That was my estimated incremental cost to add that at the leaf spring supplier.

 

Ding Ding

 

why arent the reg cabs affected i dont get it?

 

So that's 4,192 trucks.

 

I am wonder the same 650H1. Best I can figure is the suspension geometry is slightly different on our regular cabs. Just checked on mine three leaves.

 

OP here you go... This is from my "battle with Toyota" thread from yesterday. The PDF you need is in this thread for TSB in 2010 and 2011 models.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/su...-i-dropped-my-truck-off-help.html#post2596134

 

Wow, way to exagerate numbers! First, you're assuming sales of 1,000,000! You're also assuming only 1% of owners complain about this TSB. (I think it's much higher, but we'll use your number for the sake of argument. Assume all your other numbers are correct and rerun this with 2008 sales numbers of ~145,000 trucks.

Producion Savings: $21.75 * 145,000 = $3,153,750
TSB Costs: $574.29 * 1,450 = $832,720
Profit: ~$2.32MM / year

Still a tidy profit (I'm guessing it's lower as I still think your 1% estimate si way low, I'd guess closer to 10%), but for a company that is customer driven and quality based, the cost of quality, brand equity, and customer retention has to be accounted for. I would think it's about even for them, but then I don't have the quality/equity/return customer costs data available to me.

 

The assumption is that the TSB leaf = better. Since the stiffer leafs give a harsher ride when the truck is unloaded, Toyota may have survey- or focus group data that shows preference for the non-TSB leaf, because a good majority of people drive with an empty bed. If that's the case, we may never see the TSB leafs productionized.

 

Very valid point. If they make the 4-leaf standard, how many people will complain until they make a 3-leaf TSB? Simpler solution (and more profitable!) would be to redo (read: lower) the current capacity of the Taco, and have the 4-leaf/increased capacity as part of the towing package, probably result in an increased cost for the tow package.