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2012+ Clutch Problems

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by norcaldude82, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. May 21, 2013 at 8:17 AM
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    jassco

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    Same results for me with TSB. I just think the 4x4 and the added weight were just too much for this combo of engine, gearing and drive-train. The result is a clunky acceleration with lots of hops and chatter no matter how well you drive it. Add in the Access Cab and it gets worse faster with this weak clutch plate. This is why it shifts so much better when you rev it to 3k and especially with the 1st to 2nd shift.
     
  2. Jun 5, 2013 at 9:18 AM
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    The chattering in 1st gear on my '12 continues to get worse, with only 16k miles. Now on occasion when, for example, I'm pulling slowly (2 or 3 MPH) into my driveway in 1st gear, the truck will just literally stop, as though I had just quickly slammed on the brakes. When I get out of the truck, I immediately smell what seems like clutch burning... even though I haven't been riding on the clutch at all.

    Any ideas what in the clutch assemble could be causing the vehicle to halt like that while trickling forward in 1st gear? Or something else? Looks like I'll be taking this in to the dealer... what a crappy clutch.
     
  3. Jun 5, 2013 at 1:38 PM
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    If you are not on level ground with the tires straight and it is in 1st gear it will struggle/stall. The engine is just too weak. Even on a slight grade the engine will balk and rock in 1st letting off the gas and crawling slow. If you are going less then 5-8mph then you pretty much have to be in first gear with this truck.
     
  4. Jun 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM
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    I should clarify... I'm basically coming to the verge of stopping so I have already begun to release the clutch, when out of nowhere the vehicle comes to an immediate halt (as opposed to rolling). I have not even touched the brake, nor does the vehicle stall out. Hope that makes sense... it's as though the clutch just all of a sudden graps and stops the vehicle's forward momentum...
     
  5. Jun 30, 2013 at 3:49 PM
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    I am so glad I found this thread. I bought my Taco used at 12k miles. It had this issue with a jumpy clutch in 1st gear, but the dealership(Subaru) told me it was that I wasn't used to new clutches(i have a '94 yota and a '00 focus both manual). It's a '12 Double Cab 4x4 Manual with the tow package. Reading through here seems that the more weight the truck has, the worse the problem seems to be.

    Ive put 20k on it doing Army business, and have had 5 Toyota services(including immediately upon purchase), and they tell me there is no issue each time. They can't duplicate. I have gotten to the point of wanting to get rid of it, until NOW.

    BCTSR5 wrote: TSB 3663 for '12 model
    eatmytacomadust wrote: TSB 0066-11 for '11 model
    MRJ wrote: Replaced clutch parts, didn't specify TSB # he used.

    ~k

    UPDATE (2July): Went to the dealer and checked in on the clutch creaking and jumping while engaging 1st gear. They found the TSB for the creaky clutch specifying replacement of the master cylinder, etc, but didn't have the TSB 3663 that BCTSR5 mentioned. I'm in Texas, so I understand they could have a different number for 'Merica, but when I saw their list, only 2 clutch TSB's were on it. I have an appointment for Monday morning, and will update this post after its done.

    ~k
     
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  6. Jul 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM
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    Currently at the Toyota dealership getting a service and having them check over the clutch. I left the truck overnight so I could replicate the clutch problem, but it was already 84* outside and didn't stutter. Talking to the head technician, he said the last time tacoma's had that issue was '11s, according to his research. He is checking for oil or moisture inside to see if that's the problem, but without replicating, he said he can't do anything.

    The squeaky clutch pedal TSB covers '12 tacoma's up to 25,000 produced before my vin(I'll get official numbers), and it's not squeaking this morning, so it's not being fixed. It will be squeaking this afternoon, so I told him I'll be back, and maybe I can get the TSB extended out to my vin.

    Any help on the clutch issue would be appreciated. I'll post my vin in a little while if it will help. I read to call Toyota up, but who would I talk to? This dealership seems willing to do the work if there is any documentation they can find on it.

    ~k
     
  7. Jul 8, 2013 at 8:20 PM
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    Oh wow, I have creaky clutch pedal but it hasn't been doing it reliably since it started getting hot as piss outside before 10am. Crap, only have like 8k left before I'm out of that 25k window...

    Sounds like my clutch pedal farts when i push it in
     
  8. Jul 10, 2013 at 8:07 AM
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    I have a 2012 RC MT with 20,100 on it and clutch works like new, Praise the Lord,

    Thankfully second gear has smoothed out a bit with the internal burnishing over those miles, There seemed to be quite a bit of drive line slack in it and a test drive with a new RC MT confirmed it's all the same...
     
  9. Jul 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM
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    That's good they are willing,

    My appt Monday also has two clutch squeaks, one internal, which I can remedy sometimes by reaching up under the dash and turning the rod that connects the clutch pedal to the master cyl, but it comes back after a feqw days, it's very hard to get lubricant in there.

    The outside squeak is also annoying, I am hoping it's an easy fix,
     
  10. Jul 11, 2013 at 7:14 AM
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    I haven't had the time to update my issue's/fixes, but will more thoroughly explain everything this afternoon. I am currently on the phone with Toyota Customer Experience Center, asking about the clutch issue, and the leaf-spring replacement(3-leaf to 4-leaf) found in other threads here.

    ~k

    EDIT: While I'm on hold with Heather, I will tell you the internal clutch "farting"/squeak was fixed by the tech by tightening the rod's nut on the underside of the pedal. Its been 4 days without a squeak/fart. Tightening the nut in the direction of the pedal.

    ~k
     
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  11. Jul 11, 2013 at 12:34 PM
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    Awesome,

    I am going out there now to crawl under my pedals and see if it's something I can knock out myself,

    I appreciate the info....
     
  12. Jul 15, 2013 at 9:20 PM
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    I'm new to this site, so bear with me. I have a 2012 Tacoma 2.7 5 speed. It has 16,000. When I shift to one gear to another. It will slip for two to three seconds. As if the clutch is stuck. Doesn't happen all the time. Took it to the dealer. They said we can't find the problem, but we did notice the shifter is stiff. Other wise no problems they said. So then then two days later I put on my Ac on and I hear rattling by my trans. I put my cultch down and it goes away. Then it comes back when I take the foot off the cultch. Then I shut off the Ac and it goes away. Please tell me if someone had this problem.
     
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  13. Jul 15, 2013 at 10:21 PM
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    Idunno about the slipping but I have 1,000 miles more than you on same truck, ac rattle shit since day one (literally, heard it in drive thru driving it home).
     
  14. Jul 16, 2013 at 5:47 AM
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    Welcome and yes. http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/49243-rattling-type-noise-diesel-sound.html
     
  15. Jul 16, 2013 at 9:01 AM
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    Dealer said the clutch "fart" sound from under the pedal area has a TSB, had to order parts, I'll get the details up when I have em,

     
  16. Jul 16, 2013 at 10:34 AM
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    All TSB's I mention are listed in Canada.
    There are TSB's related to the clutch system on 2012+
    There has also been an addition of a new TSB related to a few clutch components on 2012 4cyl
     
  17. Jul 18, 2013 at 8:44 AM
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    Appt Monday for the repair,

    They did say it should be a clutch pedal assembly and new master cylinder also,

    I'll have more details when it's finished and I get to test drive it...
     
  18. Jul 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM
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    Just got back from dealer performing TSB 0186-12 on my 2012 RC 4cyl,
    manual transmission of course,

    Praise the Lord, squeak is gone, feels smoother, I am pretty sure Toyota changed something in the spring that returns the pedal, I think it's a tad stiffer, for real.

    The dealer got me done in half a day, I did drop it off though.

    I got a Clutch Pedal assembly 31311-04012
    and master cyl assembly 31420-04020

    I may need to adjust the starter switch though, I thought I was going to have to put my foot through the floor to get it to start, lol...

     
  19. Jul 30, 2013 at 3:57 PM
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    Here it goes, does anyone with a manual trans have an issue with their clutch pedal kicking out to the left slightly within the first 1 inch of engaging the clutch? It does not seem to interfere with shifting, but I am wondering if it is an issue that I should be concerned about or do I just have to live with it. 2013 RC Manual 4x4. Thanks.
     
  20. Jul 31, 2013 at 5:07 AM
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    Took this video yesterday to see if the "clutch rattle" is the same for everyone else. When the clutch is depressed, the noise stops and then returns when I let off the clutch. This video is without the A/C or any fans running. Hopefully you can hear it in the background:

    (it may be tough to hear through speakers - headphone pick it up)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzF6VudV9fk
     
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