2022 Tundra Redesign

https://pressroom.toyota.com/buckle-up-all-new-toyota-tundra-coming-soon/

 

I don't see that happening, untill Toyota wants to build a truck more capable than a 1/2 ton.

 

The 650 is designed to be used on the F150, which is a half ton, so surely Toyota can figure out how to get over a 2K payload, if Ford did it, I am sure Toyota can too.

 

I love the V8, but the mpgs hurt. I think that's a big goal with the new model is to pump up those numbers

 

I don't think Toyota is interested in building a Tundra that can handle that much weight.

Could they? Probably, but why would they when Toyota has no interest in building anything other than a 1/2 ton.

 

From r/toyotatundra lightened up

 

Not a fan of that grille. Too much black makes it look huge. The headlights have grown on me but not that grille/bumper combo. Just looks too busy for me. Also hoping for a V8. A single TTV6 engine seems to me as less competitive when the big 3 and Nissan still offer NA engine options and V8s and good fuel economy.

 

Ford builds a 1/2 ton that has that much payload, Chevy has a 1/2 ton that has close to that payload, Ram has a 1/2 ton that has decent payload, You don't think Toyota is interested in keeping up with its competitors in the 1/2 ton class? I am sure that the new tundra will have a higher payload, towing and fuel economy, actually I am pretty certain since that is the areas that its competitors killing their sales on. The question is, is the new tundra going to bring itself up to those standards or exceed them and force innovation across the board.

 

You won't see a V8. Actually if you look at the new engine they are putting in the Land Cruiser, I think we might be seeing an engine that is probable to be in the Tundra.

Turbocharged 3.5 delivering 409 HP and 480 pound ft torque
https://www.motor1.com/news/508039/2022-toyota-land-cruiser-engines/

 

No, I don't think Toyota is interested in keeping up with the big three 1/2 tons, when it comes to payload and towing. Why? Toyota hasn't shown interest in building a 3/4 ton.

 

I am confused, why would Toyota not want to keep up with the 1/2 ton market? and why does keeping up with the 1/2 ton capability market have anything to do with a 3/4 ton truck? There are 2 distinctly different markets for truck buyers....the 1/2 ton market which toyota is a player in and the heavy duty truck market 3/4 ton and 1 ton and up market which toyota is not a player in?

Thats like saying toyota does not want to stay competitive in the mid size truck market (where tacoma lies) because they don't want to build a 1/2 ton

For example, when I am looking at 1/2 ton trucks, I really would rather buy a tundra, but it is hard to look at a tundra when all the other 1/2 ton trucks have more capability....if the Tundra equaled or exceeded the capabilities of the other 1/2 ton trucks in the market it would be easy to go with the Tundra. This exact process happens every day when people are looking at buying a 1/2 ton truck.

This has nothing to do with the heavy duty truck market. Those in the market for a HD truck have to look at the big 3.

 

Listening to the leaks, talking to the dealers, and looking at the spy shots (6 lug wheels and new rear suspension) and taking into account the new engine they released for the Land Cruiser yesterday. I think Toyota is going to make a run at setting some new standards in the 1/2 ton market. If they do not, they might as well kill the Tundra and put their money somewhere else.

 

You will have to ask Toyota what they want to accomplish with the new Tundra. They didn't seem to interested with towing and hauling with the current Tundra.

Toyota will also have to keep pace if they can beat Ford's #s, because Ford, or GM, or Ram will want to beat the Tundra #s.

The question is does Toyota want to invest in beating the other 3, after the next Tundra is released?

How much room for advancement will the new platform provide?

 

Unfortunately I’m not interested in a TTV6. I’m sure they are good engines but I like a V8 engine and if the big 3 plus Nissan can offer it, why not Toyota? There has to be demand for the V8? Going TTV6 seems to be least amount of effort option, with all due respect.

 

Any chance they make an electric version to compete with the new Ford Lightning?

 

Very likely they will from some videos I watched on youtube, but probably 3 to 5 years till it hits the market but it might happen for the 2024 my

 

So much for 1000000 mile trucks and rock-solid reliability.

 

Toyota knows their market, they don’t try to compete with the big 3 on innovation or payload. They aren’t ever going to be competitive in terms of total sales or most recent tech. They sell tundras because people know they will last forever, and those people prize reliability and longevity over luxury and innovation. The new TTv6 is bound to be reliable, that’s why their putting it in the cruiser, arguably their most reliable and heaviest built vehicle. Turbos and been here for a long time and Toyota is late to the game because their more meticulous about reliability than the domestic manufacturers. Toyota have already engineered successful reliable turbo engines for their Lexus models.

 

Yes. I’m sure that’s what all the brochures say.

 

No it’s literally how the company operates, they don’t match their competitors power output for a reason in their turbo engines, they sacrifice power output for longevity and reliability. They’ve been doing the same thing in their NA engines forever.